[Steven Avery]

Hi Folks,

Some of you likely know that Barack Obama was almost surely born in Kenya, not the USA (Hawaii) and that the Constitution has a little point that the President must be USA-born (and a citizen, which is a related aspect that also has some application here but I will bypass).

Even McCain is gray on this, being born in the Canal Zone on a US Navy vessel but clearly a court would likely allow that to be considered Constitutionally OK and the issue has not been pressed much. (Plus imho McCain's best time politically was eight years back, but that is another story, this is meant to be a Constitutional post, not a political 'who do I like' thread. If McCain is disqualified, then a court should so rule on him as well as Obama. Clearly it is difficult, impossible, to find any way to call a person born in Kenya a natural-born citizen, even if the parents were US Citizens, which is also dubious here but secondary.)

Barack and his sister actually give him two births, i.e two hospitals in Hawaii, while his grandmother dotes about how wonderful his current rise is, remembering his wonderful birth in Kenya (she doesn't have a US Constitution on the wall of the hut).

So a Pennsylvania gadfly Democrat (former deputy Attorney General) brought this to court, I learned about it about two-three weeks ago, and the fringe radio media is starting to take note. Obama's posted birth certificate has a huge fish-factor (e.g. no state seal) and afaik the two hospitals have been quiet and have not been subpoenaed. One radio talk show host conjectures that this whole problem is why Barack went over to Hawaii, either find, destroy or create some evidence, more than visiting an ailing grandma who has been ill for awhile while the campaign is in final weeks.

I happened to be by UNC-Charlotte yesterday and Joe Biden was speaking. So I went in after the rally, sort-of shook hands (degreaser ready) and asked him, if he wins .. "Joe Biden, if Barack is shown to be born in Kenya will you become President or will there be a constitutional crises". He answered surprisingly quickly and clearly "Oh, I become President ... " and then while turning aside talked or mumbled something like "everything is OK with Obama" but I couldn't get all the words.

Just thought some of you might find this interesting. Apparently Smoking Joe is ready to go, he knows all about the problem. Although what will really happen, let's say there is an Obama victory and the truth is known before inauguration .. might not be as Joe thinks.

Shalom,
Steven Avery

[atlas]

Steven,


Here is a copy of Obama's birth certificate.


http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o.../birt_dees.jpg




Atlas

[stephanos]

Originally Posted by atlas

Steven,


Here is a copy of Obama's birth certificate.


http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o.../birt_dees.jpg




Atlas

LOL

Peace and Love,
Stephen

[Debau]

Videos with the skinny.


http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/10/bo...l-general.html

http://www.restoretherepublic.com/el...n-berg-v-obama



Photos of court docs of Democrat former assistant Attorney General of PA Phil Berg's lawsuit against Obama and DNC.

http://news.justia.com/cases/feature...v04083/281573/

[George]

Aloha brother Steven,

I read about this issue a couple of months ago (on the net - not the "news media") where a photostatic copy of Obama's "birth certificate" was shown (supposedly), without an official Hawaii State stamp on it. Having lived in Hawaii for 50 years I found it interesting that the mainstream media (not even pro-Catholic FOX News) hasn't investigated these claims and either "put to bed" the rumors or substantiated them.

Why wouldn't "eligibility" be a bona fide issue? If the Constitution of the United States is the Supreme Law of the land, then it should be followed "to the T" when it comes to who is "eligible" to run and become President of the U.S.A.

When it comes to integrity, Humanists can twist and change anything in order to affect the "outcome" in their favor! The old saying: "the end justifies the means", is the "mantra" of all Humanists and Sophists!

[Debau]

Originally Posted by Debau

Videos with the skinny.


http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/10/bo...l-general.html

http://www.restoretherepublic.com/el...n-berg-v-obama



Photos of court docs of Democrat former assistant Attorney General of PA Phil Berg's lawsuit against Obama and DNC.

http://news.justia.com/cases/feature...v04083/281573/

Ahhh...Forget it..

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=79086 <http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79086>


Government fiat rules. The peoples right to due process has been eliminated.
Case Dismissed!

[Debau]

Here is an interview with Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi, and details of his trip to Kenya investigating the Obama connection to radical Raili Odinga.
Gestapo tactics were used against Corsi to keep him quiet from telling the truth.

Listen:
http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=4628010

read:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77268

[stephanos]

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

I don't support Obama, but it appears this issue has been clarified.

Peace and Love,
Stephen

[Debau]

Originally Posted by stephanos

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

I don't support Obama, but it appears this issue has been clarified.

Peace and Love,
Stephen

Clarified? By Annenberg's Factcheck?!!! You better get the skinny on the Annenberg, Ayers, ACORN $$$$ Obama connection.
The issue of Obama's birth has been obfuscated and quashed by liberal media and government.

[stephanos]

Sometimes I really feel like I should stay out of this political mess. I really don't even know who to believe. I had posted the Obama birth certificate on facebook, when I was mocked by liberals for 'being out of touch with the truth'. That factcheck link was given me. I guess I should have known better than to believe what the mainstream media is spoon feeding people these days. Debau, where do you get your information? I try to stay out of this whole mess, but sometimes I wonder if I should be better informed. For the most part I've dealt with this whole political mess by pleading with God to give us the president He wants us to have. I feel that this has always been the wisest course of action. However, I still think I should have at least a basic understanding of the forces at work behind this election. I don't have any evidence to support my belief, but I believe there is more to this Obama guy than we are being lead to believe. People are saying he heals the sick, I even heard a man say that Obama is the messiah. Then there is the recent news of some moslem guy saying that he knows he's moslem. Something really seems completely wrong about this Obama.

Much Love in Christ Jesus,
Stephen