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Good post, George!
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I've heard of a number of couples who were so close that they could tell what each other was thinking. Then I met one fellow who had gone a step farther; his wife told him what to think!
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I too am married to a Filipina lady, and I am Caucasian. Granted we have not been married for the great length of time you have Bro. George, but so far we are on par with the kind of marriage you describe, and it's a wonderful blessing. Having those priorities right is paramount, God 1st, each other 2nd. Thankfully we were both Christians when we met and our love for God together has only been increasing since that time. |
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There are many issues that are 'gray' and that we will not agree on, but let us respect one anothers opinions/beliefs even if they are based upon speculation. |
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"Speculation" about silent places in the Scriptures is to be done very cautiously and a set of doctrines or beliefs should never be based on those speculations. I believe that a subtle attempt has been made in this thread to introduce the idea that somehow those of black African decent are inferior based on the curse of Cainaan. It has been tried elsewhere. That is an example of the danger of speculation.
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2) God never cursed anyone in Genesis 9. He blessed Noah and told him to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth: NOAH did the cursing. Noah did not have the power to cause one person or line of descendants to be "inferior" to another. God may just have honored Noah's curse, but He didn't change the DNA of those people just because. 3) From that, there are two explanations for the black-colored skin of the African race (and Australian Aboriginals, not to mention Micronesians!): either, like had been taught for years, Cain's curse was blackness, and his dark-skinned line was continued through Ham's line because he married a Cainite wife; or the skin change is completely due to the natural affects of melanin and the sun's rays because of the geographical location. Also note that Ishmael was half Hamite because of Abraham's relationship with Hagar, an Egyptian; therefore the Middle Eastern people are more Hamite than Shemite (excluding Iran: they are Aryan/Caucasian)! That's what it boils down to: God never blessed slavery, He simply allowed it. I don't think God looked kindly upon American slavery (though, truth be told, only 1% of slaves in the New World even came to the US!!) because under the New Covenant, God largely did away with the things that people used to justify slavery. All humans are equal in Christ; I don't believe that we are created equal (socially-speaking, not genetics), but we all have equal opportunity in this life to make something of ourselves. |
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Has anyone heard the theory that Ham fornicated with his father's wife and then boasted to his brothers...
Lev 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. |
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Leviticus 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. Now, the Bible says Ham saw his fathers nakedness....I'll ask a simple question, in lieu of Leviticus 18:8 what is "his fathers nakedness"???? ![]() ![]() God bless....Scott |
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“The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness” (Leviticus 18:8).As far as the statement, “…it is thy father's nakedness.” We should first consider what "it" refers to. I believe "it" refers to "the nakedness of thy father's wife." You might consider these verses as an explanation for the phrase, "...it is thy father's nakedness.” “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh” (Ephesians 5:31).Regarding Ham... “And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him” (Genesis 9:21-24). Quote:
Let’s say, God forbid, last week I looked upon “Gorgeous Gertrude” to lust after her in my heart. What had I DONE UNTO HER? I looked, I lusted, and I committed adultery in my heart. I did not touch her with anything but my eyes. That is what I did and I am guilty! What did Ham do? “And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father….” Rather than speculate exactly "how" Noah knew Ham "...saw the nakedness of his father," or read into the words "...and knew what his younger son had done unto him," we should simply believe what the Bible says. “And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father….” and Noah "...knew what his younger son had done unto him." |
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