[Steven Avery]

Hi Folks,

Originally Posted by Diligent

Explain how they can all be God's word.

Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons

the TR, BHS, KJV, NIV, NASB and ESV are God's Word. They are all copies (of copies....) of God's Word originally given.

Hmm... Let us not let this strange claim, and the idea that you are under the authority of all these texts even when they grossly conflict, get lost in the shuffle. This thread can continue on Psalm 12 and other issues about the preservation of the word of God. And on the thread :

http://av1611.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276
conflicting authorities & Mark's resurrection accounts

you can address how grossly conflicting texts can both be pure copies of God's original word. In that thread the resurrection account of the Lord Jesus given by Mark is the emphasis, although of course 100's of other examples could have been chosen.

Shalom,
Steven

Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons

Why? Biblically. Are we limited to only one English version? "

See my post A Man With One Watch Knows What Time It Is; A Man With Two Is Never Quite Sure

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- “One accurate measurement is worth more than a thousand expert opinions”

- “...this is the Word of God; come, search, ye critics, and find a flaw; examine it, from its Genesis to its Revelation, and find an error... This is the book untainted by any error; but is pure, unalloyed, perfect truth. Why? Because God wrote it. Ah! charge God with error if you please; tell him that his book is not what it ought to be. I have heard men, with prudish and mock-modesty, who would like to alter the Bible; and (I almost blush to say it) I have heard ministers alter God's Bible, because they were afraid of it... Pity they were not born when God lived far—far back that they might have taught God how to write.” Charles Haddon Spurgeon (Spurgeon's Sermons Volume 1: Sermon II p. 31)

- “If, therefore, any do complain that I have sometimes hit my opponents rather hard, I take leave to point out that 'to everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the sun' : 'a time to embrace, and a time to be far from embracing' : a time for speaking smoothly, and a time for speaking sharply. And that when the words of Inspiration are seriously imperilled, as now they are, it is scarcely possible for one who is determined effectually to preserve the Deposit in its integrity, to hit either too straight or too hard.” Dean John William Burgon (The Revision Revised. pp. vii-viii)

Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons

I must add...

When the Psalmist (David) wrote this, if he had in mind that this passage related to the preservation of Scripture, then why did he say "...from this generation forever."

Taking your interpretation, then David is suggesting that there was no preserved Scripture before him. Preservation begins with him.

Keep in mind, I am not challenging the KJV here, just your interpretation of this passage.

You misunderstand the meaning of "this generation"...the term is not to be applied to a group of people living in a particular time period of one lifespan, but applied to a type of people who's characteristics are those of proud double speaking liars.

Christ uses the term "generation" many times to describe a type of person and their characteristics.

Are there proud, double speaking liars living today? yes there are, just as they were in OT times and NT times, and in times before David wrote the Psalm.This is the generation from which the LORD did and will preserve his words forever.

To restrict the use of the term "this generation" only to those living from the time that David wrote the Psalm until that generation died out in 70 or 80 years would make unecessary the need for God to preserve his words "forever".

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