[chette777]

it is said that the whole solar system is on a warming cycle. as winman has shown in the mars mapping. it was recently discovered that the devices used to determined south pole ice cap reduction was floating away from is supposed permanent location. it showed the ice reduction as a grossly over estimated amount they had a 25% loss in one year and for the last few years they would of had not ice at all. they knew those calculation were wrong so they artificially lowered them to fit a more normal scale of reduction. then they found out their sensor was lost they found it 790 nautical mile up the South American coast from where it was originally.

all their projections were and are a pack of lies

[cliffdodger]

Good info but I'm surprised nobodies mentioned "the great global warming swindle". A full length rebuttal of sorts of Al Gore's an inconvenient truth.

great global warming swindle - you can also find it split into numerous parts on youtube

[BornAgainBibleBeliever514]

Yeah, as I read through this thread, I kept thinking about that video - I saw it years ago, along with other stuff, and never bought that lie.
Its a good video, and the Mars polar ice caps are a dead giveaway.
Yet my city is filled with green religion and hippies thinking they're gonna change the world, yet they don't realize the world is changing THEM.

The whole thing isn't just about money, that's only a sideline, the main reasons for it are:

control
trust in the government to protect
taxation
global unity
population control (reduction)
fear
pagan earth worship

Originally Posted by BornAgainBibleBeliever514

The whole thing isn't just about money, that's only a sideline, the main reasons for it are:

control
trust in the government to protect
taxation
global unity
population control (reduction)
fear
pagan earth worship

Yep, that pretty much sums it up brother!

The radical greens and your family budget...



What Will You Give Up to
Fight "Global Warming?"

"The current recession is causing Americans to take a second look at their household budget. Well, if Congress enacts cap and trade legislation, recently proposed by Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) of the Energy and Commerce Committee and Chairman Edward Markey (D-MA) of the Energy and Environment Subcommittee, families will have to take an even harder look at their budget and be forced to make additional cuts.

As recently acknowledged by a top White House official, a global warming tax could generate as much as $1.9 trillion in tax revenue over eight years, which amounts to a nearly $2,000 tax every year for every American household.* For comparison, the chart below indicates how much typical household expenditures cost families.

Even if you’re fortunate enough to handle an additional $2,000 per year tax, think of all the low income families that must seriously consider eliminating one of these payments from their budgets. Sure, there’s discussion of rebate checks from “climate revenue” generation, but will they offset the costs of higher energy prices? Unlikely.

* The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis (CDA) calculations confirmed this. CDA took the CO2 allowance limits from the Lieberman-Warner cap and trade bill, which was more lax than the Waxman-Markey bill. CDA then multiplied the CO2 allowance for each year times our estimates for the allowance price for each year. The summation of these products for 8 years (2012-2019), divided by eight to get the average per year and divided that by the number of households (about 110-120 million households) gave us an average per household tax per year of nearly $2,000."
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/04/01/...lobal-warming/

Meanwhile, I guess carbon emission concerns are just for the little people---someone is flying in a chef over 800 miles just to make pizza at the White House:
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/09...ly-restaurant/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...ake-pizza.html

[Winman]

Yep, and here is an old article showing Al Gore's home, it was shown he uses 20 times more energy than the average household in the U.S.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/28/film.usa2

I always get a kick out of the tree huggers. They want everything to go back to natural. Hey, let your lawn grow long, that is natural. Never comb your hair, then you would look natural (or wear clothes for that matter).

Here in Connecticut we have several casinos owned by American Indian tribes on land given back to them. What?? You would have thought they would have went back to nature. They could have stocked all the streams and lakes and fished, maybe even got some buffalo and started hunting them on horseback. You know, back to nature.

But the American Indians are not stupid. Living in a modern home is a lot better than a teepee, especially in New England in the winter. And driving a car to the grocery store is a lot safer than hunting a dangerous buffalo on horseback.

We should put all the tree huggers on an island and let them live naturally.

[Jeremy]

Originally Posted by Winman

But the American Indians are not stupid. Living in a modern home is a lot better than a teepee, especially in New England in the winter. And driving a car to the grocery store is a lot safer than hunting a dangerous buffalo on horseback.

We should put all the tree huggers on an island and let them live naturally.

Even the Amish and mennonite's in this area are driving vehicles and shopping at local grocery stores. Yes, they are being domesticated as well.

The whole tree huggin,eco-warrior, whacko enviromentalist communities are going to cost the average American plenty. Cap and trade is a Bad idea. I guess Obama has bought into there enviromentalism baloney.

New age,Age of aquarius and enviromentalism all have ties to one another.

There are even Green Game shows and a Green channel on Satelite.

[geologist]

Originally Posted by Jeremy

The whole tree huggin,eco-warrior, whacko enviromentalist communities are going to cost the average American plenty. Cap and trade is a Bad idea. I guess Obama has bought into there enviromentalism baloney.

Let's see the world "cap and trade" their way out of this:

Revelation 16:8-9 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

EPA calls for new regs on greenhouse
'Be prepared for the taxes/penalties'

The Environmental Protection Agency today pushed "the start button on a process that if allowed to run its full course, will impose economy-chilling regulations on the whole United States."

USA TODAY noted the regulation would have broad economic and social impact and demand new emissions limits for vehicles as well as emission limits for virtually any sizeable building. "What it means is if someone wanted to build such a building … you have to get a permit from the EPA. You have to go through the long and tortuous process of figuring out what is the best available control technology for your source, then bring your facility into compliance," Lewis said.

"On average a permit costs $125,000 … just to do the paperwork. That doesn't include technology," he said.

Lewis said what it means is that every business could be hit, from stadiums and car dealerships to convention halls and shopping malls. Their additional costs, of course, would be passed on to consumers. more here:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=95321