[Brother Tim]

she is not white, she is half Jew.

That's a distinction I've never heard before.

P.S. I'm not white either. I'm beige according to my children.

Uh, oh. Renee and George, check your skin tones!

[atlas]

George,

IF some Bible thumping bigot is trying to "prove" that because the Jews (Israelites) were FORBIDDEN to marry outside of their nation, that we Christians shouldn't marry someone outside of our "race"!

Are you calling me a bigot now?




Atlas

[Brother Tim]

Why is everyone so uptight today?

You seem to be wanting to stir up something here, Atlas. Your first post implies a present-day question, but then you jump to God's mandate for OT Israel, apparently slightly changing the subject.

If you have determined that the OT text no longer applies, why bring up the question at all? There is no debate whatsoever that God intended that the nation of Israel remain isolated from the rest of the world, marriage-wise. The only NT picture that can be drawn is restated in I Corinthians.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

[atlas]

Tim,

You seem to be wanting to stir up something here,

It was a very good topic on Cody's forum. I thought it maybe a good topic here.

I think this maybe like the " God hates sinners topic " It's not the same in the O.T. as it is now. As Bro. Parish posted. Things do change from O.T. to N.T.

But this dose apply to saved and lost people just as it did in the O.T. Saves folks should not marry lost folks. I know that rule still appears in the N.T.




Atlas

[Brother Tim]

SIDENOTE: Moabites and Ammonites were Shemites, yet were on the forbidden list. Jesus had Moabite connections through Ruth.

[atlas]

Tim,

SIDENOTE: Moabites and Ammonites were Shemites, yet were on the forbidden list. Jesus had Moabite connections through Ruth.

This is a good side note I have never noticed before.

Did you ever notice the Noah issue?


Gen. 6:9

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Notice what made God mad, race mixing with angles. Noah made God happy because of three reasons.

1. Noah was a just man

2. Perfect in his generations

3. Noah walked with God

I belive that Gen. 6:2 was talking about angles.



Atlas

[Diligent]

Originally Posted by atlas

Why is everyone so uptight today?

Atlas,

The verses you quoted don't say anything about race. That's Scriptural. Equating them with "race" is isogesis.

In fact you'd be hard pressed to find anything in the Bible about race. The Bible defines nations, not races. Race is at its core an evolutionary concept, not a Biblical one.

From the beginning God commanded that His people only marry believers.
Most problems Israel had were due to false gods and marrying pagan worshippers.
In the New Testament we were are warned to 'not be unequally yoked with unbelievers.
So, it is obvious Christians may marry anyone 'in the Lord', meaning fellow Christians.
There may be a few obstacles in such a marriage but it won't be with the Lord but with those who don't know the Scriptures or love the Lord.

[atlas]

Diligent,

In fact you'd be hard pressed to find anything in the Bible about race. The Bible defines nations, not races.

Well Ruckman dose a pretty good job in his books, Segregation or Integration and Discrimination The Key To Sanity. I will not go into disagreeing with Ruckman on this issue. If I do I'm sure I'll be attacked over this issue as with the last, but he dose make some good points. I however do not agree with him fully on the race issue. I did read his books and he makes some good points and I agree with some of what he says. These books are not all about race by the way if you have not read them yet.



Atlas

[Brother Tim]

Notice what made God mad, race mixing with angles. Noah made God happy because of three reasons.

1. Noah was a just man

2. Perfect in his generations

3. Noah walked with God

I belive that Gen. 6:2 was talking about angles.

Were those right angles, acute angles, or obtuse angles?

If you meant "angels", they are a different species, not a different race. If Dr. Ruckman preaches segregation, that would be an important fact to know.