Originally Posted by Pastor Mikie

Also, Beth, I believe a descent job was done addressing the arguments made. I don't believe they were accepted, not that they weren't addressed.

I just looked through this thread and it looks as though we are using scripture to refute the Pentecostal movement and this scripture is not being addressed by either you or Revangelist. What I see is experience being used as evidence from you and mostly "you guy's are just anti-pentecostal so there is nothing I can say" from Revangelist. Revangelist did use some scripture, and it was mentioned how the scripture was twisted a bit. I'm just telling it as I see it.

I think instead if you guys interpret scripture differently then us, then tell us how you interpret a particular passage, so we can see the differences compared to God's Word.

Beth, I think you already answered: "I'm just telling it as I see it."

Originally Posted by Pastor Mikie

Beth, I think you already answered: "I'm just telling it as I see it."

I'm curious why you won't interpret specific scripture, such as 1 Corinthians 14:20-22, especially since you are a Pastor.

I have to wonder if Pentecostals ignore scripture that isn't in line with their Pentecostal traditions.

I've decided to write an exposition on 1st Corinthians 12 - 14 and post it as a separate thread.

Quote: I'm curious why you won't interpret specific scripture, such as 1 Corinthians 14:20-22, especially since you are a Pastor.

I have to wonder if Pentecostals ignore scripture that isn't in line with their Pentecostal traditions.

Sounds incendiary to me. Also sounds a little bit like an attempt to be intimidating. Normally, I would end the discussion at that point, because I'm not interested in striving.

Originally Posted by Pastor Mikie

I've decided to write an exposition on 1st Corinthians 12 - 14 and post it as a separate thread.

Quote: I'm curious why you won't interpret specific scripture, such as 1 Corinthians 14:20-22, especially since you are a Pastor.

I have to wonder if Pentecostals ignore scripture that isn't in line with their Pentecostal traditions.

Sounds incendiary to me. Also sounds a little bit like an attempt to be intimidating. Normally, I would end the discussion at that point, because I'm not interested in striving.

My intent was not at all to be incendiary, (I looked it up)! I truly wanted to know what your interpretation is on that verse. When there are differences, I get a little tired of the pat response, "well we just interpret scripture differently" This is not a satisfactory response. Just tell us how you interpret specific scripture, then we will know it just isn't being ignored.

A Pastor should be above reproach and should be willing to answer questions without taking offense. On this thread I don't see that you have given your interpretation on scripture, just experience. I ask you a question and not only do you not answer it, but you say I am just trying to start a fight? That's not true. If you hold yourself out as a Pastor, you will get more scrutiny in how you interpret scripture.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

2 Timothy 2:24-25 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

James 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

by writing an exposition on 1st Corinthians 12 - 14, I'm hoping that you do mean expository. As in expository preaching, where each verse is dealt with. I will look forward to what your interpretation of 1 Cor 14:20-22 is, since the topic of tongues is summed up quite nicely there.

Number one, no offese intended, but, I really don't need you to tell me what a pastor should do. I've dismissed staff members for having that kind of attitude. Number two, it will take a little time to complete the thesis, so it will be a while before i submit it on a post (most likely another thread).

Originally Posted by Pastor Mikie

Number one, no offese intended, but, I really don't need you to tell me what a pastor should do. I've dismissed staff members for having that kind of attitude. Number two, it will take a little time to complete the thesis, so it will be a while before i submit it on a post (most likely another thread).

Oh really... well the Bible tells me exactly what I should expect from a Pastor. Just trying the spirit. It's not looking too good. time to flee a false teacher.

Everyone should be warned.

As you wish. As I see it, it wouldn't matter what I said. I really hope you don't talk to your pastor that way.

Originally Posted by Pastor Mikie

As you wish. As I see it, it wouldn't matter what I said. I really hope you don't talk to your pastor that way.

I have two Pastors and if I ask them their interpretation of any verse on the spot, they give it to me. They are expository Preachers that of course preach through out the Bible verse by verse. I have much respect for them both. And one of them is 17 years younger than I am. I am always welcome to come to them with questions and they answer me with much wisdom and meekness. I guess I'm spoiled by them.

I'm sorry that I don't have the same respect of one that calls himself a Pastor, yet preaches a false doctrine and is not willing to back up his teachings with scripture. I fear for your flock, even more so as I see you demand your respect.

I have been praying for you as God has put you on my heart these last couple of days. I pray the Word of God will divide asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow as you prepare your thesis on 1 Cor 12-14.

For anyone that wants to hear some great expository preaching on 1 Cor check out this site. You can hear chapters 12-14 preached verse by verse, along with the rest of the chapter. They were unable to record the first few sermons, but the entire Chapter was preached on verse by verse by our 25 year old Pastor in training. Pastor Josh has a true gift from God for Prophecy, (the Preaching of God's Word). All that come to hear him preach respect him as their elder. It is truly an amazing thing to see. And he is one of the most humble men you will meet. Same with Pastor Tom who is 65 years old and is training Pastor Josh.

http://www.spokanebaptist.com/audio.html
from this link go to sermons by topic, choose 1 Corinthians. If you arrow down you will be able to hear expository preaching on 1 Cor, except for the first couple sermons that they were unable to record. If you like check out some of the other topics.

I didn't think it was possible, but Pastor Josh's sermons are even more powerful now. He is currently going through Genesis and God's Word is so amazing................ Anyone that is interested would love this great preaching of God's Word.

I admit I'm not an "expository preacher". I'm more comfortable topically. Just a matter of preference and giftings. As a matter of fact, I'm even more comfortable as a music minister, but was lead to a few churches to try and "salvage" them (one was a Southern Baptist Church).

As for the prayer, thank you. I could use it. As one preacher friend of mine would say, "I need the prayer and you need the practice".

And if you don't have any respect for me, that's not important to me, personally. I just don't like being talked down to as stupid or concomitant by someone who disagrees with me. Except for the thesis on 1st Corinthians 12 - 14, I'm going to stop defending "Pentecostalism" on this forum.