[Winman]

Well, to be completely fair, many non-Muslim men kill their wives.

That said, one of the most appalling features of Islam to me is the lack of love and forgiveness for their own family members. There was recently a feature on America's Most Wanted where a Muslim man killed his two daughters because they had been dating.

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=51983

And many of the suicide bombers worldwide have been very young men (some women as well), often teenagers, whose families knew and even endorsed the bombings.

In my opinion that is as low as you can get. If I felt by principle that I must kill my enemy, I would use myself as a suicide bomber, not send one of my young children to their death. This is as cowardly as you can possibly get.

I have always believed that if the media worldwide could focus on this cowardly act, it might actually make a difference. If the whole world were to call these extremists the cowards they truly are, they might be shamed into stopping these horrible crimes.

Originally Posted by Winman

Well, to be completely fair, many non-Muslim men kill their wives...

Yes my brother that is very true, also I think the point of that article is that nowhere in our culture is this considered "normal and acceptable behavior." This is called an "HONOR KILLING," to butcher your wife or daughter, it's quite common in other lands and by some estimates, many thousands are murdered by their own family because this is part of the culture of death that so often runs hand in hand with the teachings of Muhammad and other world religions. You are right, it's one of the most appalling features of a world without Christ, where human rights are given a passing glance and lip service. And, let's not forget our own pagan culture, where a father sends his daughter to an abortion clinic to have his grandchild murdered in the legal system of abortion. Here is a good article by a former Muslim regarding the "honor killings"...
http://islam-watch.org/SyedKamranMir...or_killing.htm

They walk among us...


ISLAMBERG
Muslim-Only Town in N.Y.
Founded by Alleged Terrorist
ISLAMBERG was founded in 1980 by Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani, a Pakistani cleric who purchased a 70-acre plot... Federal authorities say Gilani was also one of the founders of Jamaat al-Fuqra, a terrorist organization believed responsible for dozens of bombings and murders across the U.S. and abroad. The group was linked to the planning of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and 10 years earlier a member was arrested and later convicted for bombing a hotel in Portland, Ore.

Shoe bomber Richard Reid has been linked to the group, along with convicted D.C. sniper John Allen Muhammad. But it is Sheikh Gilani who creates the most controversy and concern.

Gilani has told his followers that "Zionist plotters" plan to rule the world, and he encourates them to leave America's cities and avoid the "decadence of a godless society." Gilani is the man American reporter Daniel Pearl was trying to interview in Pakistan when he was kidnapped and beheaded. The Sheikh was taken into custody and later released by Pakistani authorities; he denies any involvement in Pearl's murder. more here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510218,00.html

Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war'
"We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there... more on ISLAMBERG, NY:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=48868

New Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu takes office...
JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned Tuesday that "extremist Islam is trying to bring us down through terrorism from north and south" as his Cabinet prepared to take office...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...rime.minister/

Taliban executes 2 Christians
Believers were protesting demand they accept Islam..
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=96034

[KingSolomon1611]

Islam has proved itself to be a very murderous religion in these recent years but brethren let us not forget that the Roman Catholic Church has been the most murderous religion in the history of the world. A few towel headed camel jockeys never had hundreds of years of bloodshed of hundreds of millions of innocents all over the world that is rightly described as The Dark Ages. That was your dear old "brothers" in Christ.

Never forget that most of your "conservative" media is polluted with catholics: Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Reagan, Danny Bonnaduce and a ton of others. One of the big dogs in the CFR, Zgbignew Brezenski was mentored by a French Jesuit. The CFR has been in ample supply in the Bush administration along with the current Obama administration. Don't let Roman Catholics tell you who is dangerous. The current pope was serving his church during the holocaust.

Thanks for your post, I hear what you're saying.

I have no use for Catholic doctrine and I will not defend their sordid history, but I'll take Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly over the Jihadists any day. I'm not even saying they are Biblical Christians, but any attempt to suggest that those men are somehow in the same league as, or more dangerous than the murdering hordes of Islam I would have to consider as nonsense. Catholic influence is certainly a part of our society, but in today's world, I think Islam is the leading religion and vocalist of hate---particularly with regard to the Jews and America.

CATHOLICISM as an influence has been in steady decline, in fact between 1965 and 2002, the number of seminarians dropped from 49,000 to 4,700, a decline of over 90 percent. Two-thirds of the 600 seminaries that were operating in 1965 have now closed. More on that here:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=29948

ISLAM's influence meanwhile shows no signs of slowing, in fact here in the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years. More on that here:
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/

HISTORY IS IMPORTANT I AGREE...
During the 8th and 9th centuries, the Arabs had already invaded southern Italy along with Sicily and by 846 the Muslims had SACKED ROME! The Arab Muslim conquests of 632–732 even dwarfed the Roman Empire, here's a map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests

Today's Muslim pirates are nothing new, we can read the history of the Barbary corsairs and see that from the 16th to 19th century, those guys captured an estimated 800,000 to 1.25 million Europeans as SLAVES. More on that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Pirates

You also have to add in the stunning rise of MUSLIM POPULATIONS in the U.K. and Europe. Albania is 70% Muslim. France is 10% Muslim. France had to declare a national state of emergency in 2005 because of Muslims burning the cities. All it would take is no more military threat from us, and one charismatic Islamic leader like Ahmadinejad to unite the various factions along with Dubai money and Islam could easily sweep over the entire world. That is the goal of Islamo-fascism.

BUT LOOK AT INFLUENCE TODAY: Look carefully at the nations where Islam has entered where there was no significant counter culture or resistant government.

Let's look at an example. The Maldives is the smallest Asian country on the planet in terms of both population and area. It's an island nation in the middle of the Pacific, and it has been populated by Buddhists, Portuguese and British people over the years. It is now controlled entirely by Muslims, but that in itself is not the issue. The issue is how the Muslims have changed the culture and the rules; today in the Maldives you CANNOT BE A CITIZEN without becoming a Muslim. Even long-time residents were not immune; "with the passage of this clause, a lot of Maldivians will be stripped of citizenship the day the new Constitution comes into effect,” Member for Seenu Atoll and prominent lawyer Mr. Husnu al Suood, told reporters on 19 November 2007. So we see the result---in essence another Islamic State.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatc...ves/019112.php

If you think this is an isolated incident, look at other nations around the world where this system has gained a foothold (including Africa, where Muslims now comprise nearly 50% of the total population).

Regardless of how you see history, we have to see Islam's rotten fruit in the light of the modern day. Try having a public Bible study in Saudi Arabia and see how tolerant they are about it. Here is an excellent article regarding the war of Islam on Christianity today:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/...inst_chri.html

Jihad plot foiled in New York

NEW YORK, May 21 (Reuters) - New York's mayor and police chief sought to calm Jewish worshipers on Thursday, the morning after authorities said they foiled a plot to blow up two synagogues and simultaneously shoot down military planes...

"They stated that they wanted to commit jihad," Kelly told reporters, using a term that can mean holy war. "They were disturbed about what was happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan, that Muslims were being killed. They made the statement that if Jews were killed in this attack that would be all right."
more here:
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3957

Now the terrorists have lawyers, and they are suing...

Judge rules Padilla can sue former
Department of Justice Attorney

In a surprising ruling, a federal judge has determined that convicted terrorist, Jose Padilla, can sue former Department of Justice lawyer, John Yoo, over Yoo’s legal opinion that led to Padilla being held as an enemy combatant....
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...an_sue_fo.html

On August 16, 2007, José Padilla was found guilty, by a federal jury, of charges against him that he conspired to kill people in an overseas jihad and to fund and support overseas terrorism.

Padilla, 38, was arrested in Chicago in 2002 on suspicion of participating in a radioactive "dirty bomb" plot, declared an enemy combatant and placed in solitary confinement in the Navy brig. He was never charged in the bomb plot, but was indicted on other charges in 2005, was transferred to a federal prison and was convicted in a U.S. court in Miami in 2007 of supporting overseas jihadism. He was sentenced to 17 years and four months in prison.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/19741701/detail.html