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Yeah, and how about Floridians associating with Georgians! Yuck! Go Gators!
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I guess with English as my 2nd language, it'll not be easy to have a spouse who doesn't speak my language for me. And that perhaps is why I strongly disagreed to the idea of interracial marriage. (because I made a judgement based on my situation) Anyhow, thank you everyone for taking time to answer. Thank God for clearing up another question I have! Last edited by kns215; 06-03-2009 at 03:22 PM. Reason: "grammar" mistake :P |
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The majority of the marital issues I see stem not from race or cultural differences, but from stepping out of our roles as Biblically laid out: Husband as head of the house loving his wife/wife being in submission and reverencing her husband. And that happens in ANY marriage, not just the racially/culturally different ones. |
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Here are my answers to your questions, kns215. It's how I see things, anyway. kns215: Is it just personal "preference"? Or is it settled with a final answer that it is RIGHT to marry outside your nation. It is personal preference because the scriptures, generally, and Paul, the Apostle to the Gentiles, specifically, do not address the issue. Therefore, if you, having a personal preference, which you have every right to, wish to use the scriptures to justify your personal opinion then you are wrong. kns215: And since Caucasians are already mixed (i.e. Irish with German, etc), and so are Asians and Negroes (within their "colour of skin"), there shouldn't be any line drawn between those three "races" either? I'm not sure I understand your question. Please forgive me if I misunderstand you: How many different races are you proposing to divide people up into? We might all have to become Mormons so we have the resources to research our family tree so we can have some hope of finding a genetically suitable mate. It becomes absurd when you think it through. kns215: But what about all those "differences" between each cultures? What about them? This is the personal preference/ personal choice thing we were discussing. Scripture has nothing to say about it. These are decisions that we can only make for ourselves and our children, perhaps, but certainly can't decide these matters for other people that we don't even know? kns215: So basically, no matter what nation, race, or culture you are from, just follow the Bible.. and there you go, no problem will occur whatsoever? The only scriptural consideration is if one is a christian Paul warns against becoming unequally yoked with an unbeliever. Race is not a consideration in any way, shape, or form. Of course, there are cultural and social considerations that each individual has to weigh for themselves. kns215: I could be very "misinformed" in this issue, and I am definitely open for the final answer based on the Scripture. No problem, kns215. We all have to have our minds renewed by God's Word. The lies of the world are not easy to get free from. I appreciate your honesty and willingness to search for the truth about this matter. kns215: Oh, and would this issue be a doctrinal issue? Interacial marriage is not a doctrinal issue. kns215: So, say if parents don't want their kids to marry anyone outside of their nation, race, or culture, are they, therefore, being unreasonable and unbiblical? (Say the reason is because communication issues, not faith issue) Whether such a position would be unreasonable is simply a matter of opinion. The position wouldn't be unbiblical unless the parents were trying to use scripture to back up their personal opinions in the sense that they were adding to the Word of God, trying to make the Bible say something it doesn't say. I might add that Paul does say the saved out of all races are one in Christ Jesus during the gentile church age. Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Paul also emphasizes that all nations are to receive blessing by faith through Abraham (the Jews). No one gentile nation is preferred over another. Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. I hope this might help in some way. ![]() Your sister, Jennifer Last edited by greenbear; 06-03-2009 at 04:35 PM. |
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Very helpful, brother George, and I read all of the threads that brother Brandon had posted regarding this topic. Also very helpful!
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Maybe this is too simplistic, but...
How can "race" be a "Darwinian concept," when Noah Webster's 1828 dictionary defines race as "1. The lineage of a family, or continued series of descendants from a parent who is called the stock. A race is the series of descendants indefinitely. Thus all mankind are called the race of Adam; the Israelites are the race of Abraham and Jacob." ??? According to www.aboutdarwin.com, a website "dedicated to the life and times of Charles Darwin," in 1828 when Webster had already formulated the above definition, Darwin was in school and "did not take his studies very seriously, spending much of his free time collecting beetles, reading Shakespeare, and having dinner parties with his friends." He didn't start publishing scientific diaries until 1836 and the Origin of the Species wasn't until 1859. I'm just saying that the idea of a "race" being a line of people couldn't have originated with him. Interestingly, the Bible terminology is the "generations of [so-and-so,]" and one of Webster's definitions of a "generation" is a "race." It seems like this discussion got off course by confusing race with nationality. It is only in a NEW dictionary that "race" has been expanded to include the word "nation." And still, when you are asked on an application to give your race, they're not asking where you're from! Pam www.custerfamilyfarm.com Last edited by custer; 06-03-2009 at 09:45 PM. |
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Nothing there about skin color. U R right, Tony. |
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The concept of race, as it is used commonly, is Darwinian. The idea certainly pre-dates Darwin. That is a side issue. Call it whatever you like; it's not a Biblical concept. If we were using the word "race" to refer to the various "ites" of the Bible, it still wouldn't change the fact that the Bible shows all sorts of "ite mixing" without condemnation from God. Again, only Isreal under the Law was ever concerned with such things --- and even then it was about specific nations, like the cursed Canaan nation. While there are spiritual applications for we in Christ, there are no commandments for us to follow regarding "mixing" of skin colors. |
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2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? I see nothing in Chapter 7 of first Chorinthians (where it deals with men and women) that has any forbiding of someone marrying an unbeliever. There is no mention of nationality, culture, or color of skin. Our problem is we always put words in The Lords mouth. (Like Eve did from the very beginning). 1 Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. Do you see any condemnation in the verse above? When we read the Bible with faith and belief in our heart and pray for understanding, The Word comes alive. Knowledge puffet up, we should leave our brains in the top drawer! Aloha, Renee |
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