Originally Posted by Brother Tim

Thank you, Brother, for your clear response. Here we have a false cult known as the "Church of Christ" that teaches that a person must be baptized in order to be saved. It is called "baptismal regeneration". The wording on your site made it appear that this was what you believed as well. Thank you for changing that and explaining your doctrine.

May God bless you and your work,

Are you saying that baptism by immersion is not necessary to be saved?

[Brother Tim]

TLDurst asked, "Are you saying that baptism by immersion is not necessary to be saved?"

In a word, ABSOLUTELY!!!

[atlas]

TLDurst,

Are you saying that baptism by immersion is not necessary to be saved?

You do not need to be baptized to be saved.


Atlas

I'm reading Gipp's theological study of the book of Acts. Throughout the book of Acts baptism by immersion is used by the Apostles when bringing people to Jesus Christ and salvation. What am I missing? What does the Bible say is necessary for one to be saved?

[atlas]

TLDurst,

What does the Bible say is necessary for one to be saved?

Are you saved?

If you are not saved, let me know I'll call you on the phone if I need to. I'll teach you how to be saved. If you want to talk with me PM me on here and I'll give you my phone number. We will talk on the phone and I can tell you in 2 minutes how to get saved. If you are not saved I want to talk with you.

You need to go read Romans that is what teaches you how to get saved. Acts is not a good book to build and church doctrine on at all. You need to be baptized, but not for salvation. You do that after you are saved.

God’s Simple Plan of Salvation

My Friend: I am asking you the most important question of life. Your joy or your sorrow for all eternity depends upon your answer. The question is: Are you saved? It is not a question of how good you are, nor if you are a church member, but are you saved? Are you sure you will go to Heaven when you die?

God says in order to go to Heaven, you must be born again. In John 3:7, Jesus said to Nicodemus, “Ye must be born again.”

In the Bible God gives us the plan of how to be born again which means to be saved. His plan is simple! You can be saved today. How?

First, my friend, you must realize you are a sinner. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23).

Because you are a sinner, you are condemned to death. “For the wages [payment] of sin is death” (Romans 6:23). This includes eternal separation from God in Hell.

“ . . . it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27).

But God loved you so much He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, to bear your sin and die in your place. “ . . . He hath made Him [Jesus, Who knew no sin] to be sin for us . . . that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).

Jesus had to shed His blood and die. “For the life of the flesh is in the blood” (Lev. 17:11). “ . . . without shedding of blood is no remission [pardon]” (Hebrews 9:22).

“ . . . God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8).

Although we cannot understand how, God said my sins and your sins were laid upon Jesus and He died in our place. He became our substitute. It is true. God cannot lie.

My friend, “God . . . commandeth all men everywhere to repent” (Acts 17:30). This repentance is a change of mind that agrees with God that one is a sinner, and also agrees with what Jesus did for us on the Cross.

In Acts 16:30-31, the Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas: “ . . . ‘Sirs, what must I do to be saved?’ And they said, ‘Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved . . . .’ ”

Simply believe on Him as the one who bore your sin, died in your place, was buried, and whom God resurrected. His resurrection powerfully assures that the believer can claim everlasting life when Jesus is received as Savior.

“But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name” (John 1:12).

“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:13).

Whosoever includes you. Shall be saved means not maybe, nor can, but shall be saved.

Surely, you realize you are a sinner. Right now, wherever you are, repenting, lift your heart to God in prayer.

In Luke 18:13, the sinner prayed: “God be merciful to me a sinner.” Just pray: “Oh God, I know I am a sinner. I believe Jesus was my substitute when He died on the Cross. I believe His shed blood, death, burial, and resurrection were for me. I now receive Him as my Savior. I thank You for the forgiveness of my sins, the gift of salvation and everlasting life, because of Your merciful grace. Amen.”

Just take God at His word and claim His salvation by faith. Believe, and you will be saved. No church, no lodge, no good works can save you. Remember, God does the saving. All of it!

God’s simple plan of salvation is: You are a sinner. Therefore, unless you believe on Jesus Who died in your place, you will spend eternity in Hell. If you believe on Him as your crucified, buried, and risen Savior, you receive forgiveness for all of your sins and His gift of eternal salvation by faith.

You say, “Surely, it cannot be that simple.” Yes, that simple! It is scriptural. It is God’s plan. My friend, believe on Jesus and receive Him as Savior today.

If His plan is not perfectly clear, read this tract over and over, without laying it down, until you understand it. Your soul is worth more than all the world.

“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?” (Mark 8:36).

Be sure you are saved. If you lose your soul, you miss Heaven and lose all. Please! Let God save you this very moment.

God’s power will save you, keep you saved, and enable you to live a victorious Christian life. “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, Who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it” (1 Corinthians 10:13).

Do not trust your feelings. They change. Stand on God’s promises. They never change. After you are saved, there are three things to practice daily for spiritual growth:

Pray -- you talk to God.
Read your Bible -- God talks to you.
Witness -- you talk for God.
You should be baptized in obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ as a public testimony of your salvation, and then unite with a Bible-believing church without delay. “Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord . . . .” (2 Timothy 1:8)

“Whosoever therefore shall confess [testify of] Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 10:32).

Atlas

[Paladin54]

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:9-10

I've always known and believed that Jesus died on the cross for my sins but I've never separated baptism from being saved. I was raised in a Pentecostal church . I don't recall ever being taught that one could be saved without being baptized. If one believes in Jesus Christ and accepts him as his Lord and Saviour but is never baptized where will he spend eternity?

[Paladin54]

Heaven.
Baptism is not part of a man being justified, it is an act of obedience to Christ, symbolizing that the old, sinful self is gone, revealing a new creature in Christ .

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Corinthians 5:17

[atlas]

TLDurst,

If one believes in Jesus Christ and accepts him as his Lord and Saviour but is never baptized where will he spend eternity?

The same place the thief on the cross went, he was never baptized.

I've always known and believed that Jesus died on the cross for my sins

Well have you even been saved?

I also believe George Washington was the General in the War of Independence. That however will not save you. Have you accepted Christ as your Lord and saviour?

It is more than just believing a fact in history. Fact: Jesus died on the cross and a new religion was started because of it. Many people believe that Jesus died, but they have not ask Jesus to save them from their sin and accepted his death for them. he died to take your place. he never sinned, therefore he died for us. Only his death and blood can and will pay your sin debt. Your debt must be paid. Either you will pay it buy going to hell or you accept his payment for your sin. salvation is about paying a debt that must be paid. It is about far more than a head knowledge that Jesus died on the cross. I believed that before I was ever saved.

You need to think about a time in your life when you called on Jesus, repented of your sin and ask him to save you. If you can not find this in your life you are not saved.

Also do not forget.

2 Cor 2:15

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

When you get saved there will be a change, there always is. Paul in the Bible he changed, as did peter and every other person that ever got saved in the Bible. Salvation always brings forth a change in any man or woman.

My guess is that if you do not know how to get saved, more than likely you have never been saved. Go back in your mind a think this over. I have no idea who is or who is not saved.


Atlas

[atlas]

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