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Anyway, as I said, in the time of Antiochus Christ had not yet come so the temple sacrifices were legitimate; after Christ they are not, they could only be a blasphemous usurpation of His once-for-all sacrifice. That doesn't mean a temple will not be built in Jerusalem though. I don't know what it means, Jerry, I just know that the temple is no longer legitimate because of Christ, so I have to take that as a crucial condition for understanding references to the temple. In the New Testament the temple always refers to the body of believers; whether that is how to understand the temple Ezekiel measured or not I don't yet know. Quote:
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Have you done the studies about how the tabernacle was a type of Christ? The temple design was based on the tabernacle. It is symbolic. The veil to the holy of holies was rent when Jesus died, symbolizing our access to God made possible through His death. I don't know why the temple is being so literally measured in Ezekiel and in Revelation, but given its function as a type of Christ I suppose this measuring also has a symbolic meaning although I don't know what that is. Quote:
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How does an Pope defile God's temple of believers? He can't - that is a spiritual temple that only the Holy Spirit can dwell in. Quote:
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When you start saying I'm denying something in the Bible I think it's time to end the discussion. I'm basing what I said ON the Bible. All I'm "denying" is your interpretation, not the Bible. You may have a different interpretation, and you may even be right, but treating your reading as the only honest reading takes the conversation to a level I don't want to go.
Thanks for the discussion to this point though. |
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Back to leave this link with you. This is from a series of talks on signs of the end times that I've been following for a few months now. I think the guy is right on in general and that all Christians should be paying close attention to these signs as the last of the last days are fast coming upon us, but the reason I'm posting this latest one is because he mentions that plans are underway for the temple to be built in Jerusalem -- about 15 minutes into the talk. (It's specifically about the Da Vinci code stuff and a new movie out about it).
I've said that on this thread already but I wanted to be very clear that I'm not with those who say it isn't going to happen just because they disagree with this or that interpretation that involves the temple. I am definitely expecting it to happen, even though I see it as blasphemy against Christ. So I recommend this talk. http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninf...SID=4140820705 Last edited by Connie; 04-15-2008 at 04:44 PM. |
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The point of Jesus' coming was to restore what was lost in "one day"
Mat 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. Now, how did He go about it? That is what the Book of Revelation, and the rest of the books is all about. It is not the works of mankind that is the subject, but Jesus' works. One day, a day in the life of Jesus was dedicated, as God, to deliver the world out of eternal damnation due to the separation. DAN 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make """an end of sins,""" and to make reconciliation for iniquity,""" and to """bring in everlasting righteousness,""" and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. THE DAY OF THE CROSS IS THE 1,000 YEAR REIGN OF CHRIST, THE 70 YEARS DEAD OR DESOLATE IS JESUS AS THE CITY JERUSALEM. THE DAY IS ALSO FOR AN HOUR, A DAY, A MONTH AND A YEAR. THE 70 YEARS DEAD, ARE ALSO THE 70 WEEKS OF DANIEL. THE SHORT TIME JESUS IS PHYSICALLY DEAD FROM SUNSET TO SUNSET.Jesus accomplished it all in one day, the whole 6 day creation and rested on the Sabbath. Went to hell, and burst open the gates, and opened the gates of heaven, so that all who lived prior to Jesus would be included in the redemption. Peace>>>AJ That day is divided into 7 equal parts, one part for each day of creation. In my last post I gave an outline of that day: The same day is as like four beasts with six wings, as in 4-6hr periods of the day. 1. period= Jesus at the last supper 2. period=Jesus receiving the sins of the world at the garden 3. Is Jesus being judged and sentenced 4. Sentence carried out. The heavenly Jerusalem, which is Christ, came down to mankind, and was lifted up. Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This next verse is Jesus who endured to the end on our behalf and not as many think, as being us. Yes, we can endure till the end, but only in Jesus. Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. There is absolutely no threat to anyone seeking to get revelation from God concerning any questions we might have. Sometimes we are taken for aride on the other side so that we might be able to see clearly what God wants us to understand. And I can tell you I have traveled on the other side, meaning I have looked into other religious beliefs, practices and considered cults. The temple that the Jewish people need to build is not an earthly temple, for that one can be destroyed readily, but the one that they need to build is in their hearts. That time will come I believe around 2029. When they will see Jesus as the Son of God and this verse be fulfilled: Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: When Isreal does that, they will not need an earthly temple, for the temple will be in their hearts. |
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