[Debau]

AJ,
How do you reconcile Rev 14:11,
"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever" ?
cf. Rev 20:10-15, Is 34:1

"Saved" loses its meaning when there is nothing to be saved from. As I said, seperation from God would please many.

So, fear of hell is mankind's way of controlling the masses, but love for God is the way of liberty.

Hell is hardly mankinds' way of controlling the masses. Folks are oblivious to it. Would that the preacher could make the masses feel the flames of Hell, there would be revival! Turn to the Lord in fear, and grow in Him in love.