05-16-2008, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons
Whether Anglicans were largely immersionists (or not) is not germaine. Even Baptists practiced two forms of baptism. This is really not the crux of my argument.
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The problem was that your argument, whatever the crux, was flawed at every point. That is why the posts rather fully refuted every attempted accusation at the King James Bible for the very excellent translation of 'baptism' and showed conclusively that 'immersion' would be a vastly inferior translation, one reason why even today there is barely a version anywhere that translates in your preferred manner.
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Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons
Why did I raise this argument in the first place? While another interesting thread seeks to understand the differences between the varieties of the KJVOnly crowd this thread highlights a very important distinction--"What did God actually preserve in the KJV?"
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Every King James Bible poster agreed that the words themselves were God's words, with absolutely no exception. Despite all the twisting tried here to try to come against the simple and accurate word 'baptism' in many places for baptizo (not every place, in some places words like "washing" were more accurate).
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Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons
Did He preserve...
His very WORDS?
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons
His very DEFINITION of every word?
His very MEANING of every word in its context?
His very SENSE of every word in its context?
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These all have subjective components.
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Originally Posted by freesundayschoollessons
How far, as a strict KJVOnly advocate, would you go knowing that the terms "Baptism" and "Church" are used?
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We showed conclusively in this thrad that "baptism" is the proper and perfect word, as used in the King James Bible in many instances. And that your preferred 'immersion' would simply be improper translation, reeking havoc on some verses and limiting the sense of others.
So why you still raise this issue as if it is has not been fully addressed is really the puzzle. Do you even read the posts (more than a skim where you can say .. 'well maybe this one aspect is not so germane') ?
Shalom,
Steven
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