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What do you mean 'clean heart'?
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When I say "clean heart", I mean that a person really mean what he says.
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Do God forgive that person's sins at that moment?
Is the the person saved at that moment?
If the person dies the next day, would he go to heaven, or to hell?
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Yes. Yes. Heaven.
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Then a year later, the person says to God, "God I do not wish to serve you anymore. Also, I do not want to have salvation"
Is the person saved anymore?
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Only God and the person know if he/she was truly saved. You and I cannot know for sure, even though we might think we can tell by their actions.
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You contradict yourself. Back a moment ago, you said that if a person does repents before GOD with a clean heart, then the person is saved and will go to heaven. Now, you are saying that your not sure if the person was saved originally
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No, once you are truly saved, you cannot do anything to lose it.
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Wow, you sound just like my friend that said "You must go to a church, and become saved. After you are saved, you can sin as much, and you won't lose your salvation."
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If the person dies the next day, would he go to Heaven or to Hell?
If they'd been saved at some point, then they'd go to Heaven. If they just made a false profession, they'd go to Hell.
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Well what if at the begining, the person truly repented and a year later, the person truly did not want God.
You know, If you read the explanition of this parable, then you will see that some people truly come to God, and then fall away from God(Mat 13:20-21)
The parable is in Matthew 13:18-23
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Another questions, What if a saved person sins with "the unforgiveable sin"? Is that person still saved?
The only unforgiveable sin in this age is rejecting Christ. That would mean that the person is not saved, and therefore could not be 'still' saved.
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What I was refering to was Matthew 12:32.
I was trying to ask "What if a saved person speaketh against the Holy Ghost?"
Is he still saved or not
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Your turn. What did you think of the answers I gave you before? Do you have questions? Do you have doubts? What did you think?
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You have said many things. Please post the messages that I have left out. Thanks.
10-04-2008, 05:24 PM
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