[chette777]

I am not advocating drinking for anyone. however the Sin for Lemuel would be in forgetting the law and prerverting justice that is why they are to put off wine and strong drink.

But Duet does say what it says. however it is for Israel only and I know that.

and the sin is in Drunkeness, drunkards and drunks. not in those who drink wine.

Again I am not saying nor did I say it was ok or alright for a Christian to drink alcohol I only said the sin was not in drinking but in being a drunkard and drunkeness.

If the sin is in the drinking of alcoholic wine, then God would be unrighteous to tell Israel to do so in Duet, and Jesus would be a sinner for drinking wine. (a winebibber is one who consumes to much Alcoholic wine not juice so the Pharisees knew it was alcoholic wine or they couldn't make the claim).

Neither God not Jesus are unrighteous or sinful. when a man says it is a sin to drink and he teaches that from his pulpit he is making God unrighteous and Jesus a sinner.

But if he will teach it correctly and show that drunkeness is where sinfulness arises and councels those who cannot control their addictive personalities to avoid drinking at all cost because it will lead them to drunkeness. and by example refrains from drinking alcoholic breverages. that man is teaching the whole council of God.

and he can use Prov 31 as a reason for avoiding drinking wine. for that verse does not teach drinking is a sin but clearly shows us if a person gets to drinking his addictive sinfulness leads him to drunkeness where he will forget the Law (have not inhibitions) and pervert justice (he will show biasness in his judgements and decisions.)