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Old 08-12-2008, 11:28 PM
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The perserverance of the saints is different to eternal security.

the P in TULIP is a conditional security. It is based upon good works, and continual faithfulness. It is also built upon the preceeding TULI. In the calvinists logic, God elects & declares, atones , regenerates, irresistably calls and since God's will is never stopped or hindered, all those he chose must be saved in the end, and there salvation is kept secure by what is called the doctrine of the perserverance of the saints.


So, in effect, your whole whine was right. The perseverance of the saints is a lie from the devil, to keep people in bondage of works and not open their eyes to the liberty that is in Christ.

As george said, this is no freedom to sin.

Eternal security IS truth. Not Perseverance of the Saints. Eternal Security. Not taught by Calvin or Augustine. Eternal Security is God's free gift of salvation, bestowed upon those who have faith, without any works contributing to the reception of that gift Romans 4:5
 

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