Masoretic Emendations

01-13-2009, 03:28 AM

My friend brings up the question of the Masoretic emendations. How do I answer?

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The masoretes record 134 instances where they intentionally changed the name of God (YHWH) to Elohim or Adonai in the process of de-anthropomorphizing a text. Often the original placement of YHWH is evident from the LXX or the DSS where the change (a subtraction from the "word of God" if you will) is in the King James...

Shalom,

Tandi

Steven Avery · 03:49 AM

Hi Folks,

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Originally Posted by Tandi's friend

The masoretes record 134 instances where they intentionally changed the name of God (YHWH) to Elohim or Adonai in the process of de-anthropomorphizing a text.

First things first. Ask him precisely and exactly what is recorded by the Masoretes, not what is the Bullinger interpretation of Ginsburg or what is the conjecture or explanation of a higher criticism modern scholar. The primary source info is very helpful when you hit such theories.

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Originally Posted by Tandi's friend

Often the original placement of YHWH is evident from the LXX or the DSS where the change (a subtraction from the "word of God" if you will) is in the King James...

First, how many verses are we examining ? He seems to be saying that the King James Bible has LORD in dozens of verses where it is not in the Masoretic Texts. Could we have a list of those verses ? Is he 'demonstrating' the first claim about 134 verses by giving a case that looks at 134, 100, 50, 10, 2 verses - or what ?

Shalom,
Steven

Tmonk · 01-13-2009, 03:50 AM

YHVH = LORD in uppercase but small letters in the English, however Lord with a capital L and normal lowercase is where the text reads "Adonai" with translates as Lord.

Tmonk · 01-13-2009, 03:59 AM

Also , here is exactly what is translated.

H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
Total KJV Occurrences: 6528
lord, 6412
lord’s, 108
god, 4
Jehovah, 4

01-14-2009, 08:52 AM

Thank you both. My friend is in grief right now so it may not be a good time to press him on this. Please pray for my friend, that in his time of sorrow and mourning, he will come back to the LORD and the KJV of his youth.

Shalom,

Tandi

PeterAV · 01-14-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tandi

Thank you both. My friend is in grief right now so it may not be a good time to press him on this. Please pray for my friend, that in his time of sorrow and mourning, he will come back to the LORD and the KJV of his youth.

Shalom,

Tandi

My wife is a good prayer Warrior as well.
I will make sure she gets the message.

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