[Traditional Anglican]

Good? Bad? Ugly? I have heard both sides. To be honest, I have not made up my mind, I have a nice edition of the Old Scofield, I don't know if it is sound I have heard that only some of the Epistles apply to Christians. Some call him heretic some call him a saint. A number of you seem to know a good deal more than me on his work, so with this preface, I am going to just take in input from you guys (I will probably only "chime in" to as a question, or to ask that a point be clarified. ) Help out a confused Anglican on this matter. Grace and Peace.

[Brother Tim]

I disagree with Schofield. I also disagree with any "study" Bible with an individual's notes added side-by-side with the Scriptures. They make for very poor students of the Word. That is the primary reason why Schofield is so popularly followed. In seminary class one day, a student actually quoted the notes as a Scriptural passage. If Schofield's writings were found only in a separate volume, I doubt that he or his doctrine would be that well-known today.

[Traditional Anglican]

Originally Posted by Brother Tim

I disagree with Schofield. I also disagree with any "study" Bible with an individual's notes added side-by-side with the Scriptures. They make for very poor students of the Word. That is the primary reason why Schofield is so popularly followed. In seminary class one day, a student actually quoted the notes as a Scriptural passage. If Schofield's writings were found only in a separate volume, I doubt that he or his doctrine would be that well-known today.

I am not "overly fond" of study Bibles myself, I read the text in Prayer, I will use a commentary (this is not "sinful" so long as you remember a commentary is a human opinion of Scripture. I use them with a grain of salt.)

[Brother Tim]

Commentaries are fine as long as they are kept in their place. The problem with "study" Bibles is that they are not. The average (and even the above-average) Christian is far too willing to let someone else "chew their meat" for them. When the notes are on the same page, laziness takes over and no prayer and meditation happens. Once the notes have been read, then the influence already has the upper hand to the Spirit's leading.

[kittn1]

I prefer my KJV straight text Bible, with no pronounciation marks, no nothing but the Word of God to let the Holy Spirit speak to me as I read, study and meditate. I want to know what He says, first and foremost.

Then I'll see what man has to say because I may or may not agree with him.

I have a couple of study Bibles, but I use them as commentaries, so the Scripture is right there for ready reference when I read the notes. I look at a study Bible more as a commentary than a Bible, regardless of the name on it: Scofield, Ryrie, Thompson, etc.

It's the same with teaching: I'll read the Scripture passage first and then what the curriculum is suggesting for any given lesson. Many times I'll edit the lesson because it doesn't line up with what the Holy Spirit is telling me in Scripture.

[atlas]

Traditional Anglican,

I like the Old Scofield Bible for a few reasons.

1. Most of the notes are good and he is right most of the time.

2. It's the same Bible every time you get a new Bible. Everything is always located in the same place. This helps when you have a new Bible. It makes it like your old Bible. You can find things very easy just like in your old Bible.

3. The Old Scofield makes it easy to transfer all of your Bible study notes. I was taught always use the same bible and you can always transfer all of your notes.

I have a Bible now where I am transferring all of my notes and it's a big help. if you'll always do this you'll never lose anything this way.

If you just get a regular Bible every time they may stop making the model of Bible you have and then everything is not on the same page. This makes it hard to move your notes and your own study helps. When everything is all moved around it is also hard to adjust to your new Bible.


Atlas

Originally Posted by Traditional Anglican

Good? Bad? Ugly? I have heard both sides. To be honest, I have not made up my mind, I have a nice edition of the Old Scofield, I don't know if it is sound I have heard that only some of the Epistles apply to Christians. Some call him heretic some call him a saint. A number of you seem to know a good deal more than me on his work, so with this preface, I am going to just take in input from you guys (I will probably only "chime in" to as a question, or to ask that a point be clarified. ) Help out a confused Anglican on this matter. Grace and Peace.

I have always preferred to use a plain, wide-margin King James Bible, where I have plenty of room for my own notes. In recent years, however, I have found it expedient to use a large-print Bible, and I use an Old Scofield. (The "New Scofield" is not a King James Bible.) It's probably the best study Bible there is, although Scofield does miss the mark in a few places. I rarely consult his footnotes any more, but his cross-references are far better than what you often find in a "plain" Bible, and about 85% of his notes are sound. I'd recommend it to a new Christian. Scofield and Clarence Larkin have done more to help Christians "rightly divide the word of truth" than anybody else. By the way, in his declining years, Dwight L. Moody chose Scofield to be his pastor.

People hate Scofield these days, and there are all sorts of lies flying around the Internet about him; it kinda reminds me of another preacher I could name. I think there are two reasons for this. Christians tend to be lazy, and rightly dividing is hard work; why waste time with all that "study" when you can live your life on the Rick Warren 40-Day Plan? In addition, the entire subject of dispensations is unpopular, because it tends to center in the Second Advent: and most people, including too many Christians, really don't want Jesus to come back. The pagans know judgment is coming, and the Christians are fat and happy with their old friend, Mammon.

For decades, nearly every preacher in America had two books tucked away in his desk drawer: an Old Scofield Bible, and Larkin's Dispensational Truth. Nowadays, those books have been replaced by The Prayer of Jabez and Joel Osteen's latest bestseller. The church is in terrible shape.....

I realize, dear brother, that dispensationalism isn't exactly the hallmark of the Reformed Episcopal Church! (My former father-in-law was an RE guy.) But I trust that, if we all stay humble and teachable, we can learn from one another. And you'd be surprised how often Calvinists and the notorious Ruckmanites agree - - -although they'd never admit it! For example, John Calvin taught, and Ruckman teaches, that the Antichrist will be possessed by the spirit of Judas Iscariot! That's an insight that has somehow escaped the attention of 99% of the "prophetic teachers" in the church.

Amidst all the lies and innuendo, here are some pretty "fair and balanced" sites about Scofield: just the facts, none of the controversy.

http://chi.gospelcom.net/DAILYF/2002...-24-2002.shtml
http://www.swordofthelord.com/biogra...ScofieldCI.htm
http://www.gospelcenterchurch.org/scofield.html
http://www.wholesomewords.org/biogra...pscofield.html

God bless you, brother!

[Luke]

But.. but.. Scofield was divorced! How can a divorced man be a pastor. Everything he said must be wrong....

[Traditional Anglican]

Originally Posted by Vendetta Ride

I have always preferred to use a plain, wide-margin King James Bible, where I have plenty of room for my own notes. In recent years, however, I have found it expedient to use a large-print Bible, and I use an Old Scofield. (The "New Scofield" is not a King James Bible.) It's probably the best study Bible there is, although Scofield does miss the mark in a few places. I rarely consult his footnotes any more, but his cross-references are far better than what you often find in a "plain" Bible, and about 85% of his notes are sound. I'd recommend it to a new Christian. Scofield and Clarence Larkin have done more to help Christians "rightly divide the word of truth" than anybody else. By the way, in his declining years, Dwight L. Moody chose Scofield to be his pastor.

People hate Scofield these days, and there are all sorts of lies flying around the Internet about him; it kinda reminds me of another preacher I could name. I think there are two reasons for this. Christians tend to be lazy, and rightly dividing is hard work; why waste time with all that "study" when you can live your life on the Rick Warren 40-Day Plan? In addition, the entire subject of dispensations is unpopular, because it tends to center in the Second Advent: and most people, including too many Christians, really don't want Jesus to come back. The pagans know judgment is coming, and the Christians are fat and happy with their old friend, Mammon.

For decades, nearly every preacher in America had two books tucked away in his desk drawer: an Old Scofield Bible, and Larkin's Dispensational Truth. Nowadays, those books have been replaced by The Prayer of Jabez and Joel Osteen's latest bestseller. The church is in terrible shape.....

I realize, dear brother, that dispensationalism isn't exactly the hallmark of the Reformed Episcopal Church! (My former father-in-law was an RE guy.) But I trust that, if we all stay humble and teachable, we can learn from one another. And you'd be surprised how often Calvinists and the notorious Ruckmanites agree - - -although they'd never admit it! For example, John Calvin taught, and Ruckman teaches, that the Antichrist will be possessed by the spirit of Judas Iscariot! That's an insight that has somehow escaped the attention of 99% of the "prophetic teachers" in the church.

Amidst all the lies and innuendo, here are some pretty "fair and balanced" sites about Scofield: just the facts, none of the controversy.

http://chi.gospelcom.net/DAILYF/2002...-24-2002.shtml
http://www.swordofthelord.com/biogra...ScofieldCI.htm
http://www.gospelcenterchurch.org/scofield.html
http://www.wholesomewords.org/biogra...pscofield.html

God bless you, brother!

Purpose Driven Scofield.....Hey, I think I will give Warren a ring and see if he wants a new project! (seriously, those are good links, the only one I have messed with much is wholesomewords, some good stuff.)