Ok, over the past month, I've read posts, especially in the Ruckman thread about some posters saying they don't believe in UFOs and questioning Ruckman's position on UFOs... I am not aware of Ruckman's position on UFOs because I haven't rea dthat material yet and would like but I do know my own position and it is this:

I believe in UFOS... as a Satan deploy to distract people away from the Lord questioning the creation account... Satan is after all the prince of power of the air now (can't find that verse right now but I know it's in there...) 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." So with that verse in mind, just as Satan can fake an apparition of Virgin Mary, can he not fake an apparition of UFOs?

or... it could be something that God allows people to see because they rather believe a lie than a truth...

2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

People does tend to be so blind to the truth that they'd rather believe there are UFOs out there than that God had created men in the image of God which some, who profess to believe in UFOs, would tell you that's high minded. (Yet, at the same time, say nothing of the New Agers who say god is in each of us... note the lower case g by the way...)

Then again, there's the flying roll of Zechariah 5:1-4

"1. Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold
a flying roll.
2. And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a
flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten
cubits.
3. Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over
the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as
on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as
on that side according to it.
4. I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall
enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth
falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall
consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof."
(Zechariah 5:1-4)

My point is this: as long as Satan is in control of the world, he will do anything at all, UFOs sightings, Virgin Mary apparition, or any kind of image at all, to make people doubt God and The Book. That right there is the whole point of the little green me. If you see one, shoot it.

[pbiwolski]

A U.F.O. in it's own terminology is simply an unidentified flying object. Everybody believes in them. If we're talking about slimy, green men, that's a different story.

In Zech. 5, the object is identified, yet that is not always the case in scripture. Try II Sam. 5:24 - something is going above the mulberry trees.

Dr. Ruckman has done extensive research into the accounts of u.f.o. sightings, and has been impressed at the "caliber" of people making claims. His conclusions yield airline pilots, high ranking military personnel, and others of distinguished reputation are now doped up in a loony ward for some unexplained reasons.

He takes a biblical stance on everything, and therefore determined these aren't necessarily "aliens from outer space" (as the lost would view), but perhaps rather some form of interterrestrial devilment. He has plenty to say and speculate on the matter, but all in all I love how he aims to see everything in the light of the Book.

[Biblestudent]

Well, that is what makes Ruckman a "Ruckman". I like him. He's a fallible man that preaches and teaches the Infallible Book!

Can't remember any little green men or alien ducks in the Bible. What chapter was that in?

No ever said there were little green men in the Book... I simply stated if you see one, shoot 'em...

I'm just trying to get a good discussion out of this subject, nothing else...

Connie, I completely agree with you. A ploy by Satan and if you were to check out www.ufomaps.com you'd see that there are sightings all over the country, especially around California, Ohio, Florida, and Texas...

Ruckman teaches that there are all kinds of extraterrestials, including aliens that look like ducks.

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/peterr...daffyduck.html

I do believe that there are some kind of phenomena that some people see and that get called UFOs, that are the work of demons. I believe they are an illusion created to deceive. Some Christian teachers, for instance Scott Johnson whose studies are at Sermon Audio.com, believe they are increasing as we approach the last days because they will play a part in the Antichrist's deception. Some of his teachings are pretty far out but if the Antichrist is going to be able to do signs and wonders that truly dazzle the world, and nearly deceive the elect, we should be willing to consider the possibility of satanic tricks well beyond our usual expectations.

Please stop wasting any more time even thinking about Satan, UFO's, or "apparitions".

[chette777]

Michael,

it is always good to know thy enemy and his methods.

I want you to know I have seen some strange things. I saw a floating head at 2am in my bedroom one night. No moon a very dark night. at first I thought it was a left over dream I blinked a couple times, then its eyes looked to my wife from my daughter. that is when I realized it was a evil spirit. then it looked straight at me. when it did I could see it's expression change becuase it could tell I could see it. then in my heart the Bible verse came through, "he that is in you is stronger than he who is in the world", Then I sat up pointed to the outside of my house and without speaking audibly I said "My Lord rebuke thee leave now and never come back. At that moment like a bolt of lightening it went straight throught he wall to the outside. it has never been back as far as I know.

One night the dog was barking very strangely. so I got up to look. it was full moon. at the far end of the vacant lot across the street I saw in the shadows of the tree a 12 to 16 foot solid black shape like a person. then it came slowly forward across the lot and it passed through the moonlight. when it hit the light it became even darker like it was absorbing the light like a black hole. it came out of the lot and went up the street and was gone. and I have heard tails from the local tribal people here of all sorts of things like harpies, satyrs and the like.

So to identify the ways of Satan and his angels is not such a bad thing to know. but dwelling on them is another thing.

forgive my mispelled words sometime I type without conscience resulting in mispellings

Where did this happen, chette? What country? I think we might soon enough be seeing such phenomena in America.