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Old 04-14-2008, 08:43 AM
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What do you think of the recent "Mid-week Rapture" view? It seems akin to the "Mid-Tribulation Rapture" view. Is the Tribulation period seven years, or only the last 3 1/2 years should be termed "Tribulation period"?
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:38 AM
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The whole seven years is the Tribulation period, the time of Jacob's trouble (Jeremiah 30:7). Jesus and John (in Revelation) both refer to the last 3 1/2 years as the Great Tribulation. All seven years are the wrath of God, not just the last half; therefore the church must be raptured out before all seven years, not just at the midpoint. If you compare Isaiah 13 and Luke 21, you will see the descriptions are the same - and Isaiah makes it very clear that this time is a time of God's wrath, where He is pouring out His indignation.
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Old 04-14-2008, 03:35 PM
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The whole seven years is the Tribulation period, the time of Jacob's trouble (Jeremiah 30:7). Jesus and John (in Revelation) both refer to the last 3 1/2 years as the Great Tribulation. All seven years are the wrath of God, not just the last half; therefore the church must be raptured out before all seven years, not just at the midpoint. If you compare Isaiah 13 and Luke 21, you will see the descriptions are the same - and Isaiah makes it very clear that this time is a time of God's wrath, where He is pouring out His indignation.
I have a whole different view, but won't give it unless I have permission.

I will hold my peace.

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Old 04-14-2008, 03:42 PM
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I have a whole different view, but won't give it unless I have permission.

Go for it AJ! Maybe it will shed some light on your other beliefs which have me stymied.

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Old 04-14-2008, 05:48 PM
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Has to do with this verse:
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The one week is as one day divided by 2 is 3-1/2 days each.
The first half of the week is as the night(Darkness) and the second half is as the day. (light) or as the two witnesses in Revelation.

Prior to Christ the world was in darkness, and after the midweek entrance, Christ's light came into the world.

The same day is as like four beasts with six wings, as in 4-6hr periods of the day.
1. period= Jesus at the last supper
2. period=Jesus receiving the sins of the world at the garden
3. Is Jesus being judged and sentenced
4. Sentence carried out.

The same day is as like the 24 elders= a 24 hour day.

Four God doubles twice the thing before He brings it to pass.

So you have 3 different pictures of the week of the same day.

1st picture is the day divided by 4
2nd picture is the same day divided by 2
3rd picture is the same day but as a whole day.

If you count those divisions, you will arrive at 7, or as 7 days of the week.

The significance of this view is that Christ came to recreate a new heaven and a new earth in one day.

This was the battle that Jesus had to endure to the end in order to gain our salvation.

Revelation then is all about Jesus conquering death and hell.

Perhaps this is too far out of a view, but I can tell you is that based on all my studies, all the books written about the end time scenarios, this view does not even come close to be answered.

Where as the bible gives ample clues to that view being the most correct. In my opinion.

This view would require you to place your standard views aside for a bit to look into it, otherwise, you will not be able to see it.

In the middle of the week the sacrifices ceased why? Because Jesus became the once and for all sacrifices of which no other is needed.

There's allot more, but this is just a short introduction.

Please let me say this, that the basic foundation which is Jesus Christ, is my solid foundation and from it, I am firmly anchored.
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Old 04-14-2008, 06:08 PM
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The one who will stop the sacrifices and will defile the temple is of the people that destroyed Jerusalem. That was not Jesus, that will be the Antichrist, from the revived Roman Empire.

Daniel 9:26-27 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Jesus was obviously not referring to Himself when He quoted this passage:

Matthew 24:15-21 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 


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