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Old 02-20-2009, 04:48 PM
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Who won Israeli elections? I heard today that it was Benjamin Netanyahu,not for sure though. Just what Obama wants, a hard right israeli. I bet he doesn't give up land for peace.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:02 PM
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I heard the same, re: the results.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:57 PM
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Who won Israeli elections? I heard today that it was Benjamin Netanyahu,not for sure though. Just what Obama wants, a hard right israeli. I bet he doesn't give up land for peace.
Aloha Jeremy,

It looks like Netanyahu will be able to put together enough center/right political parties to get a majority in the 120 seat Israeli Parliament.
Israeli politics are more convoluted and messed up than the U.S. - if you can believe it:

ISREAL'S MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES {As I Understand Them}

Likud= Secular {Conservative - Defense & Social}
Israel Our Home
= Secular {Ultra-Conservative – Defense / Social?}
United Torah Judaism
= (UTJ) = Religious {Conservative – Defense / Social = Liberal}
Jewish Home
= Religious = {Conservative – Defense / Social = Liberal}
National Union
= Religious = {Conservative – Defense / Social = Liberal}
Shas = Religious = {Conservative to Moderate – Defense / Social = Liberal}

Kadima
= Secular {Moderate to Conservative – Defense / Social = Liberal}
Labor = Secular {Moderate – Defense / Social = Liberal – Socialist}
Meretz
= Secular {Moderate to Weak – Defense / Social = Liberal - Socialist}

Balad
= Arab = {Weak – Defense / Social?}
Raam-Taal
= Arab = {Weak – Defense / Social?}

Hadash
= Arab/Jewish party = {???}


The following results were posted in "Arutz Sheva" {The only "Conservative" National News Paper in Israel.}
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The final results were announced Thursday evening, Feb. 12,
following the counting of the soldiers' and foreign diplomats' votes.

Percentage of votes counted: 100%
Real Results updated to:
8:01 p.m. Feb. 12


Nationalist/Religious Bloc
Knesset Seats

Likud .................................................. .. 27

Yisrael Beiteinu (Israel Is Our Home) ........... 15

Ichud Leumi (National Union) ...................... 4

Bayit Yehudi (Jewish Home) ........................ 3

Shas .................................................. .. 11

United Torah Judaism ................................. 5

Total for Nationalist/Religious Block ...... 65


Leftwing Bloc
Knesset Seats

Kadima ................................................. 28

Labor ................................................... 13

Meretz ................................................... 3

Ra'am Ta'al (Arab party) ............................ 4

Balad (Arab party) .................................... 3

Hadash (Arab/Jewish party) ....................... 4

Total for Left-wing Bloc ......................... 55

The soldiers' votes, in contrast to the last election in 2003, did not change the number of Knesset seats each party received
although it narrowed the gap between Kadima and Likud to less than 30,000 votes, or three-quarters of a percent.

The remaining task for determining the final number of Knesset seats for each party is to complete the complicated
calculation of vote sharing agreements and to examine appeals.

Vote sharing agreements in this year's elections were made between:

Labor and Meretz;
Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu;
Shas and United Torah Judaism;
Ichud Leumi (National Union) and Bayit Yehudi (Jewish Home);
Ra'am-Taal and Hadash.;
Kadima and Hayerukim (Green)

Kadima's agreement was voided because the Green party did not receive the minimum number of votes to enter the Knesset.
Netanyahu needs a minimum of 61 seats, and it looks like he has 65 seats. It may take 2 to 4 weeks for him to form his government.

Check out the following link for first hand news from Israel from the Only "Conservative" National News Paper (Radio & T.V.) in Israel - "Arutz Sheva"

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/

I hope that this has been of some help.
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Old 02-21-2009, 02:40 AM
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Well, I've been praying a lot about the elections. We'll have to see what the Lord's will is in all of this, but I've been hoping that no more compromisers are in office. Israel needs another Josiah!

Peace and Love,
Stephen
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Old 02-21-2009, 07:23 AM
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Thanks for breaking that down George. Ohmert was willing to give up the Land. Now Israel may just have a chance. Netanyahu will put the hammer down.

It amazes me that some people from the church i left think allah is the same as our God,and that Israel are occupiers of palestinian lands. Sound familiar? God laid out the land promised to them in Genesis Chptr 15v18.
I said one day to the preacher,we should support Israel,he said,If there was no problems or conflicts in Israel,they wouldn't want us involved in there business. HOW can you be a christian and not support Israel.
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Thanks for breaking that down George. Ohmert was willing to give up the Land. Now Israel may just have a chance. Netanyahu will put the hammer down.

It amazes me that some people from the church i left think allah is the same as our God,and that Israel are occupiers of palestinian lands. Sound familiar? God laid out the land promised to them in Genesis Chptr 15v18.
I said one day to the preacher,we should support Israel,he said,If there was no problems or conflicts in Israel,they wouldn't want us involved in there business. HOW can you be a christian and not support Israel.
Aloha Jeremy,

Don't expect too much from Netanyahu, he doesn't have much room to maneuver - Between the division in his own country; the Muslim countries wanting to annihilate them; Russia & China aiding their enemies; the European Union standing against them; and the U.S. (behind the scenes) forcing them into "PEACE" agreements, he doesn't have that many choices.

I believe that the following Verse in our Holy Bible indicates to all Christians HOW they (we) should view Israel.
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Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
At this point in time, the nation of Israel openly opposes the Gospel (and the Lord Jesus Christ), and actively bars all true evangelistic efforts in the country. However, they are "beloved for the fathers' sakes". Any Christian who opposes Israel (Jews/Hebrews) had better watch his step! God is not done with them <> [Isaiah 4:1-6; Isaiah 9:6-7;Zechariah 3:9; Zechariah 14: 1-21; Ezekiel 20:33-38, 30:3; 39:22; Isaiah 66:5-24; etc.; etc.]

Isaiah 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Look up the phrases: "the day" or "that day"; there are hundreds of them, and most of them are in regards to Israel. No, the Lord is not finished with His earthly people (Jews/Hebrews) - and never will be!

As far as Israel is concerned:

Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

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