
10-10-2008, 10:12 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 234
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Originally Posted by Born Crucified
Even those before Christ came to earth had to witness Him. Scripture declares when He died on the cross He went and ministered to souls in prison and that He set the captive free. Even the Old Testament patriarchs had to witness the Son.
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Originally Posted by Here Am I
Do you have BCV (book, chapter, verse) to prove that?
I've heard similar assertations, but have never gotten Scriptural backing from anyone on it.
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Originally Posted by Born Crucified
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison
Why did He need to preach to those in prison? To set them free!
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What 'spirits' did He set free? Where were they? Who were they?
It's not people in Hell, because it is souls that are in Hell, not spirits. When a person dies, their spirit goes back to God:
"All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 3:20, 21)
"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7)
So, who did Christ preach to? The verse you did not quote sheds some light:
"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." (1 Peter 3:18-20)
The spirits were disobedient, in the days of Noah. Who could they be? Could he be referring to the sons of God, the spirits that married the daughters of men back in Genesis 6?
It's certainly not referring to the souls of men.
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Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Christ had to descend before He could ascend. When He descended, He preached to the souls in prison. Upon His resurrection, those saints He preached to were seen alive again in the cities. He had indeed liberated them!
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Okay, the Matthew passage refers to bodies of SAINTS.
Christ descended and preached to SPIRITS according to the 1 Peter passage you quoted above, not 'souls'.
And while Matthew says that many bodies of SAINTS arose, you seem to think that those Christ preached to were SAINTS?
I am confused by what you are saying here. A soul is not a spirit, which is not a soul. A spirit in prison is not a saint.
Maybe you could clarify this.
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