Originally Posted by Diligent

Aw, why'd you have to drag poor ol' Ruckman into this thread? What is it with you guys and Ruckman? George didn't appeal to Ruckman, he just pointed out the Bible in English. You know, that Book that doesn't say quite what you want it to say, so you go and "help it out" with "the Hebrew."

Now if you're so sure about alcohol being sinful even without drunkenness, why did God give you a Bible that you have to go and correct just to show that to a "weaker" brother? Is your sword so dull?

It's ironic, since Ruckman holds the same position on alcohol that you do! (At least as far as I've read him on the matter.)

This thread sure is... threadbare! We've burned over this ground before. I think the scriptural case for mandating total abstinence from alcohol (for people who never drink to a "buzz" or "drunkeness") is weak at best, but dear brothers in the Lord disagree with me on that. I can live with that disagreement. There are bigger fish to fry in this pan. What's your problem, though? Is there an alocoholic here you're trying to reach?