Greetings!

This is very interesting…thank you.
I am very interested in the faith and beliefs of the Baptist Church. Particularly, I noticed that Baptists use the Trinity concept to exalt Jesus, not to make HIM less than Who HE is!!!! Furthermore, there is that thing about Eternal Security and other issues that have me at much peace.
So, I thought I would write out some of my thoughts pertaining to my journey and End Time thoughts as well.

Many, many years ago when I was a teenager, I prayed the Salvation Prayer in a Baptist Church. However, I came home to find a family that was much displeased with me and that day my church service days were ended until I left home.

I say that because I believe for a person in America, I have had a unique situation. I was treated like I had lost all intelligence the moment I said I believed in God. (This is in direct contrast to those Americans who were "forced" to go to church. Imagine not being allowed. Sometimes, I find myself crying when I tell some people (and they cry too) how I once sat in some empty pews pretending I was in a church service (a janitor had left a door open to this Baptist church). I do not believe though that I was in violation of disobeying my parents because I knew what I did was not wrong because there was no service. But another incident I decided I was going to go and had a plan. But when I got to the door of another church with a friend I could not go in. If there was one thing I knew about God at that point was that I was to honor my parents. Well, little did I know that just standing at the door, got attention. The pastor! came out and asked me what was going on. And then he told me to go home. You know, he said the best thing for me, because he did not ask me to disobey but he did what was right. I still today appreciate his direction. But that about sums up my church dealings until I moved out of my parents home.

But here is the thing, shortly after I left home God visited me. Because I know on the internet people would just sling mud, call my experiences demonic, it is hard to share on the internet about my Jesus experiences.

But to fast forward, I have been blessed with very special/amazing things that God has done for me in my life.

Suddenly, at my age so many, many years later, I am having a very amazing year where it seems that so much of what I have come to know is being tossed up by God in a way and reassessed and I believe God is bringing me to a place of simply permanent resolve of various things.

Even now as much of this year is over, our church has been studying End Times on Wednesday nights. Our church definitely has a major Pre-Trib emphasis. However, studying about it is something our church is not obsessed about or any such thing, but ironically other things had propped up that make me pause and wonder about all of this.

It has been obvious to me for some time that there are quite a few views out there, from pre-trib, post, mid, pre-terist, etc, etc. But what I really see is that every single person who has a view is getting their view from verses from the Bible. To emphasis, everyone is getting their view from the Bible and supporting their view from the Bible.

This has caused me to ponder on the overview of it all. Jesus gave us prophetic words throughout Scripture, and it will all come to pass, but it is so displayed that no one can quite pull it all together, and I believe the reason is such so that all people will walk by faith as well. It is just like miracles or gifts of the Spirit, we believe or we don’t. So, as far as Jesus’ coming again, we must walk by faith, and we have not been given an exact calendar date, so that we will indeed live each day to the utmost in faith. And there certainly has been a multitude of Christians who have already died and their life on this planet is over.

Furthermore, regarding End Times, many people quote Daniel and Revelation and Matthew for their verses to support their views. But as for me, some years ago, a man on the internet had asked on a spiritual forum about why was John the Baptist the Elijah to come? At the time, I had never pondered or thought of this. As a matter of fact, I had a Bible that actually had a footnote that stated that Jesus really had no need to be baptized. Imagine.

And I have heard preaching about the prophets of old, that they all taught repentance, and so after that posed question, for a short while I thought, well, Elijah also taught repentance. But something did not add up, why was Elijah depicted? That was strange, I thought. It never occurred to me to wonder about that. Several days later, I asked the Lord specifically, Why was Elijah the John the Baptist to come? And to my absolute amazement, God gave me a momentary vision! I saw a picture of Elijah/Servants pouring water on the bull on Mt. Carmel. I stood there amazed because I understood exactly what the Lord showed me, and quite frankly I am too dumb to have ever realized this on my own. But what I did have up to that moment, caused me see that the Lord was showing me the contest that was held by Elijah in 1 Kings 18. And I realized that the Lord was showing me that Jesus was that Sin Offering. And when Jesus was baptized, the Holy Spirit fell on Him and consumed Him, just like what happened with what Elijah did with the pouring water on the bull and God consuming the bull offering. That was a picture of John the Baptist. However, as I stood there in amazement, a question suddenly arose, and I asked the Lord, but Lord did the Pharisees and Sadducees and Chief Rulers “worship Baal”? And instantly, the Lord reminded me of John 8, where Jesus told these people that their father was the devil. And then I understood.
This revelation was the beginning of a lot of understanding.
I began to see how the things that Elijah said and did, were indeed a picture of John the Baptist. Even when John was in prison, I can see a picture of Elijah when he fled to the caves (presumably where Moses met God) and in Elijah’s discouragement, God revealed Himself. And then I see that Elisha was a picture of Jesus.

I say all that to say, not too long ago in Sunday School the discussion was about Moses going through the sea with all the people. The teacher mentioned that this could really be a picture of Jesus delivering His people. I thought that was an interesting remark. And I found that others have heard that parallel too. The next week, we were talking about the golden calf that Aaron had made while Moses was in the mountain getting the Law.
This caught my attention, as I realized if various people believed that the deliverance was a picture of Jesus, what would stop me from analyzing the continuation of that thought.
What if the golden calf represented such things as the early Christian church while the New Testament was being compiled, out came Gnostic teaching and other false teaching, quite a worthless golden calf for sure.

I know I sound outrageous, but currently, I am wondering if the whole thing that followed in the Old Testament is a loose symbolic picture of the Christian church. Another outrageous thought would be if the tribes of the north (that broke off) represents the Protestants. Grin. What if when Jesus was talking to the Samaritan women at the well, really represented a confused bunch of people that spend much of their time pondering the Truth versus living it. Yet, they received Jesus in spite of their stupidity.

And all the way to the destruction of it all (via Babylon and Assyria), and even to Daniel who lost his identity, name, everything, but refused to eat their food. In a sense I know I sound like a nut case, but it just makes me wonder. Could Daniel be a picture of End Times in itself where those must endure to the end and not eat their food? Just thoughts.


On another matter, when I read the Book of Revelation, kind of funny how everyone sees that the rapture will happen before the Tribulation, but when I read it, I see that those who endured to the end in the Tribulation were given white robes. In fact, when I look at the entire Book of Revelation as a whole, those that were given white robes, receive actually the biggest blessings. At least, that is how I see it.

Sometimes I think that we here in America do not really see a fact that for some years there are a multitude of Christians “Dying” for their faith right now. There is a country that even comes to discovered Christian homes, paints a big red “X” on it, then comes in an kills all of them.

Currently, regarding that Proposition 8 video posted on this forum, shows that our churches are loosing their freedom. It appears that churches will be forced to provide gay marriages or loose tax exemption. A good pause to wonder what will Churches do? Centuries ago, Christians would die for much less.

It is clear that we have not seen anything yet as our society crumbles into a country that is rapidly changing the laws versus upholding the law.

There is something that bothers me, however, in a lovely concept of pre-rapture, is that Christians will not be prepared for hard times and enduring to the end, if many believe that they will not have to endure to the end, but will fly away. Perhaps there will be a pre-rapture, but my question is what if we are wrong? Would we fold or endure to the end in hard, vastly hard times?

Which leads me to another thought. Will we fly away? When I look at some of the parables that Jesus said, it seems that the bad is first thrown away, and the good remains. Or if one is taken and the other is left, who is to say that the one left is the blessed one?
Also, the New Jerusalem comes down, not we go up to the new city. This gives me a lot to ponder as well.

We have all been given “physical eyes” in this life where we see this life here, but we are told and believe that angels are very much around us such as Matthew 18:10-14. And to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. I really do believe that this earth the way it is, is temporary and will be rolled up like a carpet one day, but a new earth is coming, yes? But the spiritual realm that we can only see if the Lord shows us, is very, very real. Because the current earth is temporal, I would view the spiritual realm much more real than ours.

Furthermore, who is to say that the tribulation is a curse or a blessing...how can Jesus come if HE does not end the old one?
And what about where it says that the stars will fall from the sky? What happens when the Lord Who holds all things together, lets go?
NEW THINGS FOR SURE!!!


I also tend to be a literalist, so while I see a lot of symbolism, I see a lot in a literal sense as well.

Well, as you can see I am not your average normal Christian. I have been met with a lot of persecution in my life as well, much more than I revealed regarding my earlier years. I have been met with a lot of hostility as well.

God bless you all. I really appreciate your messages.