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Old 08-30-2008, 08:42 AM
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of course John 3:16 is not difinitve for Gods salvation for the elect only or anyone for that matter. it is proof he loves the whole world including sinner who will go to hell. it is his will none shoud perish

show me some scriptures please not just the teaching of men ,


The other verses shared in earlier post are clear that Jesus did die even for those who will not beleive as well as those who do.

I agree .

jim