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Old 08-29-2008, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Simons View Post

Ok this makes me think this; if you can't lose your salvation, if you are saved and return and live in sin, you are not really saved, so you never where saved to begin with, so what is the difference and where is the line to know you are saved?

It is like if you have said the magic words (no offense implied) or convince the heart to believe on Jesus that seals the deal, and that is all is necessary. Then all God's word does from that point is get us more rewards or keeps us from losing rewards, it never really is part of our salvation it just there to upgrade us. Or basically we are set free (salvation).

I do love the list and would appreciate your patience with me, I really would like it to be clear on this, it is hard for me to grasp some of this.

Aloha Brother
Brother Scott, I know you asked Brother George directly, but I wanted to share some Scriptures that have helped me understand how sin is dealt with in the life of a true believer. In my own life, I find that if I attempt to understand God's gift of eternal life which is through Christ, with intellect, reasoning, or logic...I get confused. It makes no logical sense that I still commit sins, and yet I am presented holy, unblameable, and unreprovable in His sight. I hope you meditate on these Words and find rest in Christ.

"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" (1 John 2:1).

He is always my advocate. Don't sin, but if you do, praise the Lord, Jesus the Righteous is continually interceding on my behalf.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:12-13).

Since I did not do a single thing to destroy and abolish sin in the first place, what makes me think I can do something now, in the strength of physical flesh and blood, or in my will to dissolve sin and appease a righteous God? I can offer no sacrifice to satisfy the just demands of a Righteous, Holy, God. My hope is always in the completed work of Jesus Christ.

Brother Scott, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage" (Galatians 5:1).

Love in Christ.

Last edited by Forrest; 08-29-2008 at 10:01 AM.