Gophgetter I don't know why you addressed the reply to me as Renee but however.
If I came into your house and told you that you were bringing up your Kids wrong, that the things that you have been teaching them in love are completely wrong and you need to change right now or they will grow up twisted and wrong, would you do it ? would you go against all you believe and listen to a complete stranger? NO of course you wouldn't, the same way that I will not reconsider verses that you post that bring into scrutiny the salvation of My LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ, my Father in Heaven who IS powerful enough to hold my salvation for me, like George and myself mentioned in previous posts, that does not give Christians a license to sin.
In John 3:1-7 the bible is CLEAR that just as a child cannot go back into a mothers womb neither can a believer go back into an unregenerate state.
Are you fully trusting on the LORD Jesus Christ for you salvation? If you are then how can you be dependent on the life you lead to keep you there?
"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." -Romans 4:5
You know what......I have blessed peace and assurance from My God, that it is he, who I rest upon SOLELY for my salvation, that his "FINISHED" work on that old cross was for ME. That I was a wretched sinner and I was saved by Grace through faith. Oh what a precious Gift I was given of eternal life,
"But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many."
My salvation is based upon God's love for this sinner and not of my own self righteousness. I STILL SIN if I said i did not I would be a Liar,but I am absolutely more aware of what sin is and the form it takes and I do NOT LET IT REIGN.
I certainly did not do anything to save myself, except allow Christ to save me, therefore How can I do anything myself to unsave me?
Certainly a Christian can lose the JOY of salvation just as David sings of in Psalm 51:12
Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
My LORD, My Saviour, My Rock in whom I put all my trust said
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." and do you know what? I BELIEVE HIM
Closing this, can I ask you, Can a son no longer be a son, can a daughter no longer be a daughter? anymore than a saint can no longer be saved.
Stephanos Brother I have prayed wholeheartedly and studied my Bible with the author and rightly divided as BEST I CAN on this matter, and I have absolutely no malice or bad feeling towards Gophgetter in fact, I LOVE HIM. Gophgetter there is no attack on you at all, I personally am making a statement scripturally to say to you, I will NOT debate any further with you regarding ETERNAL salvation because it causes me Offence personally because Jesus Christ brought me from the brink of suicide and saved me and ANY MAN that comes along and tells me that He cannot hold me there I will certainly not entertain.
In My Saviour's name the LORD Jesus Christ.
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