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Originally Posted by peopleoftheway
Romans 16:17
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Gophgetter, you have caused offence to me because the salvation that you speak of is not the salvation I have been taught and believe, I refuse to bite at the bait you are clearly throwing among us anymore, In all honesty what you teach makes me feel physically Ill. What you post in no way edifies me personally and You have caused division in this forum because you have divided yourself against 99% of the forum members. I am simply doing what The Bible commands me to do and I will personally avoid your posts from here on in.
2nd John 1:10
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
1st Tim 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Posted in the name of the Author Of My Eternal Salvation, The LORD Jesus Christ.
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You are over reacting. There is no need to be offended by what he's said. It is no division to bring forth scripture to support what one says/asks. If you cannot stand the heat of a biblical debate/discussion then you shouldn't be involved in one. This issue of un/conditional security has been debated since our God moved the pens of men to write our beloved Bible. I have listened to people debate it, write about it, insult people about it etc, and I can still say there is evidence to support both doctrines within our Bible. Personally, I still believe that Salvation is conditional upon faith, and that faith is distinct from belief.
James 2:19-20 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? (I don't want to hear that this book is not for me, I'm stating right now, I believe that it is for all Christians, and I've heard the arguments against this belief already)
Anywho, I think we all should take a moment and chill. Pray, read your Bible, fellowship with the brethren, whatever. Just do what you gotta do to relax and put away this spirit that is clouding our minds enough to go at eachother like this.
Peace and Love,
Stephen