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Old 07-25-2008, 10:19 AM
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BP: I do not deny that God can keep His exact Word; I suggest that God has not kept His Word on earth, Just as God has not kept Jesus on earth - not that He could not do it, but just that He didn't.

Your conclusion is based on your assumption that I deny that God keeps His Word - I do not and have not denied that. But yes, people are less like Christ than ever, as many scriptures read that near the end, weakness will reign in the church, and yes, we have a decaying Church in the sense that most Christians today as very weak, spiritually. Yes, Christ is building His church - in numbers, from what I see, but not in spiritual strength. "In other words", I have an infinitely strong God who Has preserved His Word, living and written, in Heaven, and saves people properly, even though we see through a "glass darkly".

(I wish I could go more into this right now, and reply faster, but I'm on my honeymoon!!)

God bless,
Jon

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Originally Posted by bibleprotector View Post
CM:

So you deny that God has been able to keep His Word via copies through history, and deny that it can be gathered, and that it can be ascertained today... moreover, you deny that we can know/read/hear His exact Word (because, after all, who can see or feel Jesus today?).

In your connection of Bible history with Church history, you have a view that people are less like Christ than ever, because you indicate that today's Bibles are not like the Original. In other words, you have a weak God who cannot preserve His Word, and cannot save people properly. Thus, instead of believing that Christ builds His Church, you have a decaying Church along with His incorrupt Word suffering from entropy.