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Old 03-29-2008, 12:15 PM
Beth
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Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
Nope, its not a gift then its a offer, the bible does not say that the wages of sin are death, but the offer of the gift is eternal life..

Jesus did not say in jn 17:

2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Here is beth version

2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should offer eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
If a man offers marriage to a women are they married? Doesn't the woman have to agree to the marriage. In a covenant relationship there is an offer and an acceptance. If a man forces the women to marry him, is this a loving relationship?

It's the same with Jesus, He offers freely to all the gift of salvation. We must receive this gift to have the gift. God wants a family in heaven that loves Him freely of their own will. When we repent and trust in Jesus, we become in agreement with God. We are reconciled unto God. We are in agreement with the will of God. We must surrender our own will.

This is basic Christian doctrine on salvation.