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Originally Posted by tonybones2112
I've shown water baptism, and I don't use this as a cuss-word as "hyperdispensationalist" or "Bullengerite" is used against those like me, but I've shown water baptism to be hyperdenominationalism.
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LOL, I was wondering how long it would take for you to creep back in here and start dragging up the old threads. This is very typical of hypers. And those are not CUSS WORDS at all, and they are FAR LESS flammatory than some hyper confused fellow stepping in here and telling all the pastors and Christians that their believer's baptism is UNSCRIPTURAL and part of the Mosaic Law.
I agree with Brother Ruckman, when he writes:
"The man who subscribes to hyperdispensationalism is as hung up on non-baptism as any Campbellite preacher who ever lived is hung up on water baptism. As a matter of fact, the more you watch these people through the years the more you realize that they have a NEUROTIC OBSESSION obsession with this phase of their Bible learning. The all-important thing to the hyper-dispensationalist is to get rid of Baptist churches. These people are obsessed with this to the point of fanaticism."
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Originally Posted by tonybones2112
If I am teaching bad doctrine, show me Scripture that it's bad, brother. Expose it. Brother, you didn't start the thread but you are as of this minute still participating in it. That's what I am waiting on, someone to expose it, with Scripture. I threw down no glove, I'm standing for what the Scriptures teach.
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Nonsense, the scriptures do not teach that, this is a perversion of the clear doctrines of the Bible—with a view that so far only 4 other people have been confused about enough to even agree with you. Support for your view has been so weak here that you have been off on another thread trying to bash Baptists and start this trouble over there, until I called you on it.
I already presented plenty of SCRIPTURE in posts 5 and 47, and stated you are wrong. Bro. Tim presented SCRIPTURE and indicated you are wrong. Bro, George presented plenty of SCRIPTURE and stated you are wrong. Bro. Matt responded to you in love and made his case for baptism clear. Chette also baptizes believers to this day, he presented SCRIPTURE and indicated clearly that Baptism is not an OT law. Fredoheaven presented plenty of SCRIPTURE and determined you are wrong. I gave you the words of Ironside with MORE SCRIPTURE. I gave you the words of Dr. Ruckman with MORE SCRIPTURE. I gave you the words Dr. David E. Walker with MORE SCRIPTURE.
So please don't "pretend" like no one has given you scripture, that's a smokescreen for more argument, because you have already ignored the scripture.
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Originally Posted by tonybones2112
Brother, I'm not responding to a name-calling, spittle-flecked rant...
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Tony, you are being shown a lot of love and patience here.
I don't think ANY of us have approached this with anger or "name-calling, spittle-flecked rants" as you claim. However it should be noted that YOU already wrote:
"Though I am a fundamentalist Christian, that is the reason I am not now and never will be a Baptist: That bloodcurdling, Pharisaic, separationist authoritarianism I found manifest in the Ruckman forum on Yahoo in 2005-6."
http://av1611.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1216&page=15
"It's my personal opinion you don't have any Scripture to counter my position over there and it's fallen upon poor brother George to bell the cat with me over there, the church splittin' dry cleaner, and I am smiling saying that."
http://av1611.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1216&page=18
So everyone can see how HYPOCRITICAL you are being brother, stereotyping and projecting Baptists as "bloodcurdling pharisees," and shifting this issue onto other threads.
I TRIED to get you to avoid all this. Bro. George TRIED to avoid it too. Let's face it, we're not the ones who started calling you a "CHURCH SPLITTER and DRY CLEANER," you started randomly calling YOURSELF those titles long ago before this thread EVER STARTED—no doubt to call attention to an issue which you are obsessed about like every Bullingerite out there. NOW WHY IS THAT, why are you seeking ATTENTION to this over and over again? Anyone who knows Hyperdispensationalism already knows the answer.
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Originally Posted by tonybones2112
Now, I'm not going to compare anybody to anything, I'm just going to stand on my convictions unto death as Peter did with the Jews in Acts 10 brother.
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Yes, well you can stand on the moon and eat green cheese if you want—but, telling Christians that their believer's baptism is UNSCRIPTURAL and part of the mosaic law is STILL wrong, it's STILL leaven and it STILL stinks.