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Old 05-27-2009, 05:54 PM
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BroParish,

I will try and clarify

yes the death burial and resurrection are mentioned in Acts 2. But the reason Peter mentions it is to show them they had deliberately killed their messiah and King, and that God had raised him from the dead.

from that they were convicted of killing their Messiah and asked what they should do. do not read that as saying, What shall we do to be saved" they never asked that, just what shall we do .

Peter answer was not believe on the name of the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved.

No what Peter replies is REPENT (a work because they believed what Peter said) and BE BAPTIZED (a work) for the REMISSION OF SINS (the result of their faith in what Peter said about Christ plus works). it is not their belief in Christ for the forgiveness of sins it is their belief he was their Messiah and they killed and rejected him that is the context of the previous verses to Acts 2 vs 38.

you can share the details of Christ death burial and resurrection in a conversation like Peter did and it still no be the Gospel of grace.

remember If you give the details of Christ resurrection burial and death and fail to tell people it is for the FORGIVENESS OF SINS you are not telling them the Gospel of grace. your just giving them historical details just as Peter did.

the death Burial and resurrection is not the Good News in and of itself just like John 3:16 is not the gospel. The good news of the Gospel of Grace is that the Death Burial and resurrection of CHRIST is for YOUR SINS, IT WAS DONE TO TAKE YOUR PLACE IN DEATH AS THE REQUIREMENT OF SIN (for the soul that sinneth shall die), HIS BLOOD WAS SHED FOR ATONEMENT OF YOUR SINS TO GOD(without the shedding of blood there is not remission of sin), HIS RESURRECTION WAS FOR YOUR JUSTIFICATION AND IF YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST WORK TO YOU IS IMPUTED CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS. Now that's the good news, the Gospel of Grace.

Peter never in Acts 2 even comes close to telling them this Gospel.

Winman,

Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. It had not come to pass yet. future reference not present active. Paul was the first to use this with the Jail keeper at Philippi

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. is including the future generations of Israel not Gentiles. but in a broad sense could include Gentiles as we see in the millennial kingdom which came after the Lord returns to his Place in the Kingdom. which would of happened if the leaders repented but they did not resulting in Acts stoning of Stephan.

Mk 16 is faith plus works believe and be baptized (work). repent never means "to believe" as you stated above. it means to turn from never believe. however I think what you meant was if a person believes it resulted in repentance. it also says gift in Acts 2:38 yes, but if the Apostles didn't tarry they would have not received the gift either which was teh promise of the father.

Last edited by chette777; 05-27-2009 at 06:16 PM.