Chette, I've been looking at what you wrote above... are you suggesting that ALL WATER BAPTISMS in the New Testament were John's Baptism? I'm just curious, because I realize there are some movements today that still claim to operate under John's baptism.

And as for "tactics" I don't know what you mean brother, just because Fredoheaven and I don't see eye to eye with you on this doesn't mean we are out to "wound" you in any way. We are simply discussing Biblical doctrine on baptism and offer doctrinal clarity. We have never wavered far from the original topic, or become angry with any one and I already stated I'm glad we can agree that believer's baptism is for today.