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Originally Posted by BrianT
The King's speech is still the King's speech although not translated with equal quality, and a man is in the image of God even with scars and warts.
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Brian. The examples I posted before which you refuse to address in any concrete way are NOT examples of the king's speech not being translated with equal quality, but are rather clear examples of one Bible (or even many in these cases) which has the complete verses and another that does not even have them, let alone "not translated with equal quality".
So which one represents the kings' speech?
Originally Posted by BrianT
Yes, I believe the KJV is "the word of God", but in the same way that the Geneva Bible was "the word of God", Tyndale's translation was "the word of God" Brian
Hi Brian. Tyndale omitted the entire verse of Luke 17:36 - “Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken and the other left.”.
Tyndale omitted the entire verse of Mark 11:26 - “But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. “
Amazingly, Tyndale’s N.T. also omits all these words from James 4:6 - “Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.”
In the book of Revelation Tyndale omits the words: “And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee” from Revelation 18:23 and the entire verse in Revelation 21:26 which reads: “And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.”!!
Now, how in the name of sound reasoning can Tyndale's version be called "in the same way" the "the word of God" and the King James Bible also be called "in the same way the word of God"?
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Consider the alternative (which takes us full circle): if a textually inerrant, complete, pure and perfect Bible is the necessary definition of "the word of God", then "the word of God" did not exist prior to the publication of such a Bible.
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Brian. Why does not the historical existence of the book of the Old Testament in the Hebrew texts (which your modern whateverist versions often reject) and the historical existence of the Old Latin and the Waldensian New Testament scriptures till the time of the Reformation meet the standard of the preserved words of God?
Can you PROVE that they were not the preserved words of God in book form? It seems your whole argument breaks down if this is the way God did it.
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Let me know where you disagree with this logic:
A. The original words were "God-breathed" and inerrant
B. God cannot lie
C. God, who cannot lie, said in those original inerrant words that his words are pure and they (as "the word of God") will be preserved
D. We no longer have those original manuscripts (or at least have failed to recognize them if we do).
E. Fallible man was involved in copying and translating throughout the centuries
F. The writings of scripture were not combined into a single volume until decades or centuries after the original writings were finished.
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Not a single volume of both the O.T. and the N.T. but both in separate places. They would still be the perfect and preserved words of God in book form. You cannot prove that this is not the way God did it. Why? Because hundreds if not thousands of manuscripts have been destroyed by the persecuting Catholic church. The remaining evidence is inconclusive but it clearly points to the texts that underlie the King James Bible as having been the preserved words of God through history.
One undeniable proof of the truth of the KJB (which you vainly tried to address with your original post about all those alleged KJB departures from the Hebrew texts) is that God guided the KJB translators to use the Hebrew Scriptures for the O.T. ALL your modern fake bibles like the nasb, niv, rsv, esv, net, Holman, and even the nkjv sometimes, often reject these Hebrew readings.
The sovereignty of God in history points to the King James Bible as being the perfect, preserved and inerrant words of God in the end times universal language of English. No other Bible version has this distinction.
Satan knows this and that is why I believe there are SOOOOO many fake English bibles being pumped out year after year. No other language has nearly the number of "bible" translations as does the English language. You counterfeit REAL money.
Will K