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Originally Posted by Here Am I
Get your own relationship with the Lord upfront, number one, and everything else will fall into place. And stop trying to dictate to people how they should live, according to your standards.
And second verse is from 1 John: "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." (1 John 2:27)
When I have other people telling me what I should or should not do, I give it to the Lord, and the Holy Spirit teaches me what I should do.
I thought I'd made myself clear, that there are books that grieve me, and I have gotten rid of them. There are other books that do not grieve me, and I may continue to read them.
I'll put my trust in the Lord and how He leads me, rather than men.
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Several problems here
The Holy Spirit will lead you - INTO ALL TRUTH.
The word of God is truth - John 17:17
We are to worship God according to Truth - John 4:24
The Holy spirit will never lead us into a position that is against the revealed truth of God in His Holy word.
Are you trying to convince me that the Holy Spirit led you to read a book about wizardry, witchcraft, etc??? Based upon what Scripture do you make this claim???
Please give a scriptural argument that shows conclusively that it is an acceptable practise to entertain thoughts on the occult, witchcraft, sorcery, wizardry, and supernatural powers when the Bible so clearly condemns them.
Your argument flies in the face of the revealed will of God on the matter.
I am not a dictator. I am a messenger. I am not judging. I am pointing out the principles of
revealed Scripture. THe Scriptures are judging you. If you don't like it, take it up with the Lord - He wrote the Book, not me.
The Scriptures are NOT SILENT on this matter. If you or anyone else here wants to keep this junk in their house and life, that is your business.
I simply do not see one Scriptural reason why anyone would want to in light of these clear-cut verses.
Deut 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the
abominations of those nations. 10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a
witch (like Glenda!), 11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits (Like the JEDI), or a wizard (Like GANDOLF), or a necromancer. 12For all that do these things are an
abomination unto the LORD: and because of these
abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. 13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. 14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
Exodus 22:18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
(not even the "good" ones that only practice "white" magic - like Glenda, the "good" witch of the North!!!)
Rev. 9:21Neither repented they of their murders,
nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
Rev. 21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and
sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Oh yeah - how could I forget this one?
I Samuel 15:23For rebellion is as the sin of
witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
Yep, Americans love their rights. They don't like being told what to do. In fact, most of us (myself included) don't even like the LORD telling us what to do.
For all of you witchcraft supporters out there, provide a sound SCRIPTURAL argument that supports the reading of these novels, that doesn't contradict the clear commands AGAINST witchcraft.
The idea that "since it is fiction it is ok" is foreign to Scripture (II Cor. 10:3-6)
The idea that "since it doesn't have any [visible or tangible] affects, it is ok" won't wash either. The very fact that some here are tolerant of it only reveals that they DO have an affect on the way you think - you have accepted that which God calls an abomination.
The idea that "the Holy Spirit will lead me" is a good idea, until we find out that the Holy spirit ONLY leads us to the truth, and it will never violate Scripture.
Are we Bible believers here in theory only???
In Christ