Any GCBI folks here?
 

GCBI was the catalyst to me leaving KJV-onlyism. Are there any folks here who have taken classes from them?

Any GCBI folks here?
 

How so?

When I first started the program I was very excited. I did all of the work and got A's on everything. I completed Unit 1 (3 months of course work) and then began Unit 2. At first as I did the work, I genuinely thanked God almost daily for giving me such an excellent opportunity to study the Bible, I was truly grateful. But as the lessons continued on into Unit 2, I began to notice something. Dr. Tabb in his material began to cherry pick Bible verses or claim a Bible verse meant something that it clearly could not mean. Essentially, he had a preconceived theology and used the Bible to support it rather then study the Bible and have his theology develop from it. I felt as though this man was not teaching what the Bible said but rather was using the Bible to teach what he wanted it to say.

While I agree that is wrong, how does this affect the KJV being the perfect word of God?

Its like a line of dominoes. One falls, the rest fall. I began to come to the conclusion that most of the proofs supporting KJV-onlyism really were not sound.

For example, Psalms 12:6,7 only suggests that God will preserve His Word. They do not identify how or what. To use those as a proof text for KJV-onlyism is to do what Dr. Tabb did. Read more into the verse than what is there.

Only to those who determine God hasn't, or it hasn't been discovered. If He preserved it then it's still preserved and perfect. We know that the modern perversions are not it, since they can't even agree with one another, let alone historical church doctrine. That leaves us with the KJB. Simple elimination. Are there others based on the same texts? A few, but if there are still areas they don't agree in, then I must ask, why do we need to change from the tried and true and believe them?

Why not the Geneva Bible? Why not just the underlying Textus Receptus text? Could that be the preserved word and then from there we create translations for people to read in other languages?

Of coarse you could do that. The problem is that God set brought up the right people, at the right time, and gave them the right knowledge, to be able to translate His word accurately and perfectly. I would venture to say that without divine intervention once again to do it in another language, such a group of people does not exist today.

this is a strong assertion "The problem is that God set brought up the right people, at the right time, and gave them the right knowledge, to be able to translate His word accurately and perfectly."

Prove it.

Why were the Greek scholars of old better than the ones today? Would you rather a medical doctor from the 17th century or one today? Why was it the right time? What right knowledge did they have that we do not have today?

Do some research on the scholars. They were a group that makes nearly any group of translators today seem much like a novice in their work.

Once again, you demand proof. The proof is given by the Holy Spirit to those who will accept it, and between the covers of that precious Book.

You don't know do you? You listened to a sermon defending the KJV that claimed how much superior the scholars were. Did you ever read any of their other works? Did you ever research the people from today. I seriously doubt it.

I used to distribute James Knox's series on the KJV - the 20 message set. I hosted it for years and made hundreds of CD copies. He makes the same general claims about the translators that you have. Can you point me to real evidence about translators today versus the ones from 400 years ago? Even a reputable book with notes and a bibliography that you have read to prove your point?

What are your objections Eric. Set them up and I pray that God will give me the knowledge to knock them down through His word. I don't have all the answers, but I know I have some, because I have listened, and heard, this truth.

Hey Luke thanks for jumping in the mix... Take a look at the other thread titled Bible Version Challenge... I really do welcome your response...

Thanks,
Eric

You claim to have once "been KJV-Only." It's hard to imagine what "proof" would satisfy your demand.

The reality is that God's word has to be accepted on faith. While I can easily prove the corrupt nature of modern Bible translations and their underlying manuscripts, "proving" that the KJV is God's word without error is, frankly, impossible.

There is a mountain of information pointing the way, but only the Holy Spirit is going to convince someone of the truth.

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Yea, Verily !!!
 

:) Great Post, and "nail-on-the-head!"

The thread starter needs to A). Fix his attitude,,, and then-

B). Get a booklet from the Trinitarian Bible Society titled: "The Learned Men" , and read about the gents that were tasked with translating the Bible in 1604.

I would also say that there is no truly "neutral" ground on earth. Even the most objective research contains a bias. Given the same set of facts, one would end up being an evolutionist or a creationist. So with the Word of God; one has to either believe it or not. I would say to everyone on both sides of the KJV issue, "Choose your bias!":)

Ok, I'll let my ignorance shine here, what is;"GCBI"? I came out of the oneness pentecostal movement a couple years ago, I'm learning but never came across that one before.

I think it's a local church Bible Institute. Since there are thousands of them in the states I am not sure why Eric thought anyone would have heard of that one.

I checked the website, seems okay.

My first thought when I read his rantings*--- was General Conference Baptists...

But when I googled the letters, two different outfits came up: Gulf Coast Bible Institute and one called Great Commission Bible Institute.


* Actually--- My first thought was something like: "Does this guy know this is a pro-AV/KJ website..?? and the second thought was: How long before the Admin makes this guy "walk-the-plank" ?

Usually google would have been the first thing I would have done, don't know why I didn't think of it this time. Thanks for the info.