Standard Oxford KJV Leather- My first bible as a child
Zondervan KJV classic 1983 w/ condordance Leather- Oxford text I think. 1611 Hendrickson facsimile print Leather NKJV chronological / archaeological study bible NKJV standard - Belonged to my wifes grandmother , its sentimental Old Bibles Geneva 1560 w/apocrypha -scans Geneva 1599 - modern spelling -scans ERV 1885 -scans 1640 bay book of psalms -scans Then I also have those dreaded modern versions NASB word study bible w/condordance-references NASB life application study bible NIV - good for a fresh look at some harder to understand verses. Also a Dead Sea Scrolls Bible (not really a bible but more of a study as its paperback) that does a word for word comparison on every page between the DSS , Masoretic text and the LXX. With this handy book I know what each one says compared to each other word for word. On the Computer in Text or E-Sword I have KJV KJV 1611 Geneva Bishops LXX Textus recepticus Nestle-Aland 27th NASB 95 NASB 71 Masoretic Text Kittels Latest Edition w/DSS Varients Wescott & Hort first edition GNT Latin Vulgate - Stuttargt / Jerome 1900 Cambridge from Bible Protectors site and many others |
I've never read the Bible through. I have never had one bible that I use most. I still need to determine how to read and study the Book. So, I think I'm going to take advice I got on another part of this forum and use Scofield. Now where to start reading?
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Gospel of John, I think it's one of the best books in the Bible. If you get a Scofield Bible, get the Scofield lll version.
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Actually, my pastor recommended the Old Scofield (from like, 1917 I think) because if said they change stuff in the newer ones. I was thinking about just starting in Genesis and just reading through like a regular book, what do you guys think?
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I am waiting on the Collins PCE leather bound edition,the ISBN was provided by Bibleprotector. Once i recieve it,i will give a review. |
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Old Scofield is Better
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If you decide on Scofield, then by ALL MEANS get the old one 1917. The text has not been fiddled with like the modern Scofield Bibles. Some should get kicked out for using the term King James. ******* Personally, I do not go to the Study Bibles at all. Some of the notes may be great but they do detract from your actual reading of the text. You can read your Bible in only 7 weeks at the rate of an hour or two a day. [30 pages]. Seeing that my eyes grow dim, I try to use a larger print Bible. I particularly like cross reference Bibles. The column is usually in the centre, but some are ushered to the margins. ******* PeterAV Every word of God is pure:=PCE KJB, Namely, The Holy Bible. |
I'm pretty sure I'll go with the Scofield. I like the Evidence Bible because of the helps. And as I've compared it, it really does seem as though all they've changed are the "thee's and thou's" and endings like -est and -eth. Do you guys still think that's changing too much?
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Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. (Matthew 24:35 KJV) Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. (Psalms 119:160 KJV) Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. (Deuteronomy 4:2 KJV) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Revelation 22:18-20 KJV) The Evidence Bible is an abomination! It's full of Lordship Salvation heresy and is rank with changes to God's preserved Words. God's Word is sufficient for ALL men. Peace and Love, Stephen |
What is Lordship salvation?
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That would be great and all, but they seem to forget that someone that gets saved still has their flesh and will always struggle with sin no matter how crucified they are with Christ. That's not to say that one cannot have victory, but until we get to Heaven, we'll always be fighting with our flesh to serve God. I'll see if I can get together a post on State vs. Standing as it deals with Salvation. I'm away from the house right now and don't have time, but perhaps later tonight I'll put something up. |
See, that's what I was starting to believe. The Lordship salvation thing. But I think I understand that all is required is that you realize you're a sinner, and Jesus died for those sins. Then trust in Him to cover those sins. Is that right, or close?
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Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6 KJV) Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:29-31 KJV) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9 KJV) Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (John 3:14-15 KJV) Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. (Isaiah 45:22 KJV) Peace and Love, Stephen |
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The Bible says in Ephesians 2:10 "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." After we get saved, we most certainly are expected to serve God with our whole heart: if He gave the greatest sacrifice known to mankind, then how can we neglect to give Him everything we have?
The problem enters when Christians look at someone who has a testimony of Salvation, and says they must not be saved since they haven't surrendered to Christ as their Lord. True, we SHOULD surrender, and that's what God desires of His children, but to add that to Salvation, and claim that someone who doesn't show signs of surrender can't be saved is clearly adding to the Gospel of our Lord. I'm not negating the importance of service: I'm simply pointing out that requiring that in addition to Faith for Salvation is what Paul would call "Another gospel," i.e. Paul Washer, Ray Comfort, etc. They have some good stuff, but they tend to overemphasize works. |
I was just reviewing this thread. And noticed some recommending the 1917 edition, of the Schofield.
That is the reason I bought the Schofield lll, it uses the 1917 text. Not the revision of the 1967 new Scofield. Old Schofields are like diamonds around here, not to be had, so I bought the schofield lll, after finding it has the 1917 original text. :) |
Start at the Beginning!
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Then turn to the new Testament and contrary to many folks who say read John,,, I say read Matthew first. Why ? Because it is the first Gospel placed there by The Holy Spirit . Matthew starts with the beginning of the family tree, then the birth of Jesus and onward. Step-by-step with Him and the Disciples. { I'm in league with the late Dr. J. Vernon Mcgee on this. He never understood why folks tell new believers to start with the most difficult of the 4 Gospels-(John) rather than learning first from Matthew,Mark and Luke ( my favorite). } Then turn to the 2nd Book of the Bible which is Exodus. It is full of not just historical information, but it is where the 10 Commandments are given to Moses from The Lord God Almighty! You will see people time and again complaining about God and Moses, and their food supplies and a host of other things which are still being done thousands of years later by humans. Now I would suggest you read a chapter at a time---straight through. If you have a question, or something doesn't make sense to you, then get a spiral notebook and a pen/pencil and write down the Book-chapter-verse and put a ? mark on the paper. Then keep reading to the end of the Chapter. Often you will find the answers to the questions in the New Testament books. Be patient. This is a long process that is not done overnight. Another thing to do/read is a chapter each day from Proverbs. Proverbs has 31 chapters and is a great thing to read while eating breakfast before you head off to work or school. God's wisdom and ways are much different than the world's ideas. At night read a chapter from the Psalms. Start at Chapter 1 verse 1 and go on through. After you finish the Gospels, start the Acts of the Apostles---before you jump into the Epistles (Letters). Acts takes up where Luke ends. It is the history of the brand new movement known then as "The Way" later known as "Christianity". It covers a span of about 40 years. I think the Epistles will make more sense to you if you start at the beginning of Acts. Read Revelation L A S T after you have read the Old Testament Prophets. Otherwise you will get diverted onto another "siding", and miss the main "Track" ( to use a little railroad lingo..). Some folks over the years get so bogged down trying to figure out what the various things mean in Revelation , they completely neglect or lack any understanding of things found in the Torah--the 5 Books of Moses. The Base of the house must be laid down first, then lastly the shingles/tiles. Too many Christians spend their time trying to guess about when the Lord is coming back, but only the Lord God in Heaven knows that, not us. There are some sections of the Bible which may be "slow going" or "dull" to you, but keep going as that way you will gain the understanding you need. The words were breathed by God The Holy Spirit. They are there for a reason. Christ Jesus had many battles/hassles with the Devil, and the Pharisees/Sadducees/Scribes and He was able to overcome them (and anger them) by quoting the Word of God to them. Hope this helps you. |
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